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Old 08-27-2005, 05:59 AM   #1
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i recently started taking lexapro for depression. I smoke every once in a while (usually once a day). Any ideas on how to get the best high when using lexapro with MJ? i heard MJ might counter the effects of SSRIs but havent really noticed it.

Anyway, id really like to know if anyone knows how to get the full affect of lexapro. like chewing or taking more? i only prescribed 10mg now though.

soo.. waiting to hear from you experts out there.
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Old 08-27-2005, 07:26 AM   #2
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I have been taking Zoloft for 8 months, and have felt no side-effects, or a diminished "high'' when I smoke cannabis (which is daily).

Lexapro, like Zoloft is an SSRI (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor), obviously regulating serotonin re-uptake, thus tricking the brain into feeling enhanced and prolonged pleasure at daily activities. THC on the other-hand, affects the brain's dopamine activity (not sure why, or how), tricking it into thinking your that your happy and hungry. But because SSRI's, and cannabis work on two differant neurotransmitters in the brain, there should be no interferance between them when consumed at the same time

Keep in mind that everone's physiology is differant-but generally speaking there should be no perceivable change at all when you smoke.

As for taking the Lexapro, assuming it was perscribed to you for legitimate medical benefit, I would just follow doctors orders. Zoloft is a time realease pill that take affect over a 24 hour period, I'm sure Lexapro is engineered the same way. Chewing it will diminish the the way it works, but it will not give a 'supercharged manic high' - I've tried... no luck.
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:05 PM   #3
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THC on the other-hand, affects the brain's dopamine activity (not sure why, or how), tricking it into thinking your that your happy and hungry.
This article, "The Tolerance Factor", says that marijuana doesn't work by stimulating dopamine production:


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Now Herkenham and his associates have proven that marijuana has no direct effect on dopamine production in the striatum, and that most of the drug's effects occur in the relatively "new" (in evolutionary terms) region of the brain - the frontal cerebral cortex. There is now biological evidence that far from being the "gateway" to abusive drugs, marijuana is instead the other way to get high - the safe way.
Drugs that stimulate dopamine production are often highly addictive. THC binds to the brain's endocannabinoid receptors, an entirely different chemical system.


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Anyway, id really like to know if anyone knows how to get the full affect of lexapro. like chewing or taking more? i only prescribed 10mg now though.
To get the "full effect" follow your doctor's instructions. Modern antidepressants work by gradually building up to the proper levels in your blood. They are not short-working "happy pills". They often take weeks to become effective and there's no way to speed up the process. The guidelines for Lexapro say that it should begin to have an effect after a week or two and that the full benefits take 4 to 6 weeks to develop.
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Old 08-27-2005, 07:50 PM   #4
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Interesting article, here's mine:Psychiatric Times
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Old 08-27-2005, 08:47 PM   #5
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This article also theorizes that there is a direct connection between THC and increased dopamine activity in the ventral tegmental area (VTA), which is connected to both the nucleus accumbens (the reward center of the brian), and the prefrontal cortex.

Speculation also exists that suggests the the actual release of dopamine may be attributed to pre-synaptic receptors on neighboring GABA(gamma-aminobutyric acid) internuerons that trick the brain into releasing it. Increased activation of dopamine receptors causes increased production of cAMP (cyastic Adenosine MonoPhosphates), inside the post synaptic cell, which somehow changes the normal activity of the nueron.

From what I gather, cAMP will often exert an excitatory effect on the membrane of the postsynaptic cell, by opening a depolarizing ion channel on that membrane. Which in turn, somehow affects and re-increases receptor activity in that region of the brain, thus causing a "cyclic" effect on dopamine release/receptor activity. How and why THC causes this, seems to be the question of the moment...
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Old 08-27-2005, 11:35 PM   #6
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Clarifyication: in regards to the earlier post - when referring to the article as "mine"...not saying that I am the author, merely stating that it was my source of information....
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Hey i take lexapro I used to take 20 mg and when i was on 20 it took me so much weed to get high infact and never really got high i just felt wierd but not i take 10 mg and as long as you take 10 you shouldnt have any problem just make sure to atleast take it a few hours befor you smoke or after
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I've been taking Lexapro for social anxiety dissorder and depression for 3 years, and I'm currently on 20mg per day. I my experience, it has no effect whatsoever either positive or negative in regards to the effects I feel from marijuana. Lexapro is one of the newest SSRI's. It is very commonly prescribed because it is thought to have some of the lowest side effects and drug interactions of all antidepressants.

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Anyway, id really like to know if anyone knows how to get the full affect of lexapro. like chewing or taking more?

SSRI's don't produce euphoria or any other kind of high or buzz, so you REALLY shouldn't chew them or take more than your doctor prescribes. In my case, the only noticable effect of Lexapro, other that not feeling so moody all the time, was a reduction in the volume of my critical inner voice (if that makes any sense to you). Basically, when going to a party or whatnot, my mind would contstantly be interupting me with thoughts that the I looked foolish, or that I didn't belong. Lexapro seemed to stifle those thoughts, allowing me to feel more comfortable in social situations. Lexapro can be a great medication if it helps you, but it has no recreational value, so don't put yourself at risk for problems by trying to abuse it.

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In my case, the only noticable effect of Lexapro, other that not feeling so moody all the time, was a reduction in the volume of my critical inner voice (if that makes any sense to you).
i have to say, this IS something i feel, and seems to really be the only "long term" effect im feeling with lexapro. My mom was whining to me to tell her some differences with how i feel, and i recently thought of the a simple analogy that described the same thing you said.

i said its "like there used to be a veil over my thoughts which prevented me from saying what i wanted too. like "whats the point in saying that, its useless, worthless, dont bother" but that veil seems like its weakening or dissapearing."
-nice to know someone else felt the same effect.

I actually feel much better after just 3 weeks of medication. During those few weeks i felt such a difference, i really only wanted to feel it more and faster, which is why i posted here.

Thanks for telling me to just stick to it, hopefully things will work out ok.
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Good luck to you, and just remember: Lexapro like all SSRI's has been linked to some potentially devestating side-effects whenever it's use has been discontinued sharply. ALWAYS reduce the daily amount gradually, NEVER quit "cold turkey".
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