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LegaleyeZIT · 02-09-2006, 05:43 AM

I was reading through some stuff and saw this,

Buzzby Wrote:
"Exhaled marijuana smoke has almost no THC left in it. Something like 95% of the THC is absorbed after a couple of seconds of taking a hit. The whole concept of hotboxing is flawed. It seems like a really unhealthy way to abuse your lungs, your nose, and your sinuses."

I think EVERYONE should know this, for years I would hold my hits in for like 30 sec. little did I know I was just killing my lungs.

Thanks Buzzby, My lungs and I owe ya 1.

tintala · 02-09-2006, 05:41 PM

Actually , it really doesnt' matter if you hold it for 30 sec or 30 min. When person inhales that breath doesn't make it to the lungs completely.. It takes 3 breathes to exchange the gases in the lungs and alveolus ( bubble sack in the lungs) where the oxygen ad co2 diffuse... Whether you hold it or not it's still in the same breath.. it will take another 2 inhalations to fill the lungs.. in terms of killing your lungs, you are doing so anyway by partaking carbonized particles. The reason why we cough when we inhale ganja is because the capilaries in the alveolus expands when thc is absorbed.. When we hold our breath you probably are not getting any more of the thc then as if you exhaled ,,,,, but, if you inhaled 2 more times you may get even more absorbed into the alveolus.. I am a respritory therapist and have researched this myth.,, but , there is sooooo much more research to be done , we havnt scratched the surface!

Buzzby · 02-09-2006, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tintala

It takes 3 breathes to exchange the gases in the lungs and alveolus ( bubble sack in the lungs) where the oxygen ad co2 diffuse...

What does this have to do with anything? After a toke you don't take another toke; you breath some air.

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The reason why we cough when we inhale ganja is because the capilaries in the alveolus expands when thc is absorbed..

The reason we cough when we smoke ganja (or anything else) is because lungs were not designed to breath smoke. It's irritating and by reflex we try to get rid of it and get some fresh air. If it had anything to do with THC, we wouldn't cough from breathing other kinds of concentrated smoke, but any kind of concentrated smoke will make you cough.

JussBL4ZE · 02-10-2006, 02:40 AM

well only way id hold in smoke. is if im smokin KEEF. or some ultragrade.. otherwise yeah he is right its all absorbed in the first couple seconds.

LegaleyeZIT · 02-12-2006, 08:01 AM

[quote=tintala]Actually , it really doesnt' matter if you hold it for 30 sec or 30 min. When person inhales that breath doesn't make it to the lungs completely.. It takes 3 breathes to exchange the gases in the lungs and alveolus ( bubble sack in the lungs) where the oxygen ad co2 diffuse... Whether you hold it or not it's still in the same breath.. it will take another 2 inhalations to fill the lungsQUOTE]

This really makes no sense to me, when I inhale a breath of smoke, I exhale the smoke(1 breath in:1 breath out), I don't breath in smoke then blow out 2 breaths of air and then blow out the smoke.. What you are saying makes no logical sense, does anybody else have any input?

Higher Logic · 02-12-2006, 08:10 AM

Read this thread, where I wrote about holding in hits. Here's the entire thing if you don't feel like clicking the link.

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I've yet to find any real figures on THC absorption in the lungs. Some people say only 15% of inhaled marjiuana smoke is absorbed into the lungs (meaning 85% of the THC is exhaled). Other people say 85% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs, with 15% of the exhaled smoked being THC. I have always said 85% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs within the first seconds of inhalation, which is a safe number, but after some research here is what I've come to conlcude:

Deep inhalation and breath-holding used in attempt to absorb more THC in the lungs only increases the absorption of tar and other carcinogens. A study done by a group of doctors in Canada (Dalhousie University) concluded that more than 90% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs within the first seconds of inhalation. Another study confirms this, but they put their figure at 95% absorption. The study also concluded that within the first hour of smoking marijuana, most of the THC is absorbed completely into the lungs (meaning your lungs don't immediately take in all of the THC at once, but over the course of an hour they take it all in). The complete elimination of any trace THC has been put at 53-55 hours, which could explain while some people experience a lingering high a couple days after smoking. An almost deja-vu high if you will.

http://www.marijuana.com/420/attachm...achmentid=3269

Conclusion: your lungs literally absorb 85-95% (average 90%) of the THC within the first second of inhalation; holding in a hit does nothing to increase the high, and any high experienced is either (a) placebo or (b) due to oxygen intoxication (meaning, breath really fast for 30 seconds and you'll get lightheaded and dizzy, that's oxygen intoxication).

I forgot to add that the 5-15% of the THC that isn't absorbed is probably due to the THC loss in trace smoke and not your lungs inability to absorb a chemical. You don't see cigarette smokers taking a hit and holding it in for 10 seconds, they get that "buzz" literally in the first second of taking a hit.

LegaleyeZIT · 02-12-2006, 08:17 AM

Thanks, Just what I wanted to know. I should have searched it but I think this is somthing everyone should know and tell everyone they see holding in those hits and killing thier lungs, or better yet tell them to get a vaporizer.

JussBL4ZE · 02-12-2006, 04:49 PM

either way. ur lungs are dieing so it dont even matter.

okeydokeypokey · 03-01-2006, 10:33 AM

All i know that when i take a big ass hit and hold it in for a couple seconds, i can feel myself getting high.

**Richi** · 03-01-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by okeydokeypokey

All i know that when i take a big ass hit and hold it in for a couple seconds, i can feel myself getting high.

Yupp, asphyxiation will do that to you. The marijuana will do it's job on its own, no need to hold it in.

02-09-2006, 05:43 AM	#1
LegaleyeZIT New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 34 Diggs: 0 Grams: 364.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Holding in HITS I was reading through some stuff and saw this, Buzzby Wrote: "Exhaled marijuana smoke has almost no THC left in it. Something like 95% of the THC is absorbed after a couple of seconds of taking a hit. The whole concept of hotboxing is flawed. It seems like a really unhealthy way to abuse your lungs, your nose, and your sinuses." I think EVERYONE should know this, for years I would hold my hits in for like 30 sec. little did I know I was just killing my lungs. Thanks Buzzby, My lungs and I owe ya 1.

02-09-2006, 05:41 PM	#2
tintala New Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 24 Diggs: 0 Grams: 396.80 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Holding Hits Actually , it really doesnt' matter if you hold it for 30 sec or 30 min. When person inhales that breath doesn't make it to the lungs completely.. It takes 3 breathes to exchange the gases in the lungs and alveolus ( bubble sack in the lungs) where the oxygen ad co2 diffuse... Whether you hold it or not it's still in the same breath.. it will take another 2 inhalations to fill the lungs.. in terms of killing your lungs, you are doing so anyway by partaking carbonized particles. The reason why we cough when we inhale ganja is because the capilaries in the alveolus expands when thc is absorbed.. When we hold our breath you probably are not getting any more of the thc then as if you exhaled ,,,,, but, if you inhaled 2 more times you may get even more absorbed into the alveolus.. I am a respritory therapist and have researched this myth.,, but , there is sooooo much more research to be done , we havnt scratched the surface!

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02-10-2006, 02:40 AM	#4
JussBL4ZE Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 339 Diggs: 0 Grams: 27.85 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	well only way id hold in smoke. is if im smokin KEEF. or some ultragrade.. otherwise yeah he is right its all absorbed in the first couple seconds.

02-12-2006, 08:01 AM	#5
LegaleyeZIT New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 34 Diggs: 0 Grams: 364.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	[quote=tintala]Actually , it really doesnt' matter if you hold it for 30 sec or 30 min. When person inhales that breath doesn't make it to the lungs completely.. It takes 3 breathes to exchange the gases in the lungs and alveolus ( bubble sack in the lungs) where the oxygen ad co2 diffuse... Whether you hold it or not it's still in the same breath.. it will take another 2 inhalations to fill the lungsQUOTE] This really makes no sense to me, when I inhale a breath of smoke, I exhale the smoke(1 breath in:1 breath out), I don't breath in smoke then blow out 2 breaths of air and then blow out the smoke.. What you are saying makes no logical sense, does anybody else have any input?

02-12-2006, 08:17 AM	#7
LegaleyeZIT New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 34 Diggs: 0 Grams: 364.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Thanks, Just what I wanted to know. I should have searched it but I think this is somthing everyone should know and tell everyone they see holding in those hits and killing thier lungs, or better yet tell them to get a vaporizer.

02-12-2006, 04:49 PM	#8
JussBL4ZE Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 339 Diggs: 0 Grams: 27.85 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	either way. ur lungs are dieing so it dont even matter.

03-01-2006, 10:33 AM	#9
okeydokeypokey New Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 47 Diggs: 0 Grams: 264.95 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	All i know that when i take a big ass hit and hold it in for a couple seconds, i can feel myself getting high.

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