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Ryang87

So i started smoking weed heavily for the first time when i came to college. So far my experience has not been as great as i seem to see others having. I always get paranoid about my heartbeat, and it sometimes kills my high and makes me want it to just stop. Now i will say that when i am distracted from that, that my high is great. Today i smoked some haze. We packed a bowl between 3 people, and after each took 1 hit, it was kicked(fully packed). I started noticing the effects after 1 hit, a nice relaxed feeling, everything started slowing down and my body felt good. We packed another bowl, i took another hit and this time i got high. By the third and final hit, i was stoned. Here is where the experience really started hitting. Walking was a chore, i could not walk straight for shit. My heart race was high(or so it seemed to me) but i hadnt really started paying attention to it yet. When i was walking back to my dorm, i REALLY noticed how high i was. I had some really weird shit going on. I knew i was walking back to my dorm, but my mind was totally somewhere else, it was almost as if my mind had left my body. I started thinking about what i was doing and what i looked like to other people and mentally started picturing myself as others saw me. My conciousness was also strange. People seemed to be walking slower, everything was slow. Then things started going into frames. Everything was slow, but it wasnt smooth. It was like i was watching my life go by on one of those old film reels with slow frame rates. Someone would be a decent ways away from me down the sidewalk and i would blink and bam they would be right there!Also, colors were very sharpened,everything seemed cartoon like. When i was walking up the stairs in my dorm, my mind and my spiritual self really seemed like they had left my physical body.I got back to my room, chilled out, everything seemed slow and quiet so i put on some music to try and get an orientation of time. Then i lost focus on everythnig else and focused on my heartbeat, i kept taking my pulse and making sure i was still breathing, everything seemed like a chore. I just wanted to relax and feel good, but i couldnt unfortunately. The coming down was swift but rough and the burnout was up there in the worst ive had.

This was the first time where i had noticed these perceptions going on, just recently i have started noticing that everything seems like a cartoon drawing. In the past i would just feel good, id be in a good but solitary mood and things would just be a little slow. Just in my last few smoke sessions, i have really started getting some strong effects, especially what i described today.

I know some of these experiences here seem really exxagerrated, but this is the true account of my first experience with haze today. Has anyone else had any similar experiences?

 

FreeUpJahCure

I know when ever I light up some haze the experience is great. It sounds like your shit was laced though homie.

Bluntfulladro

sounds like you just got really high.

Dimebag-Dave

That sounds a lot like the first time I got high, especially how you describe thinking about yourself through the eyes of others. It's hard to believe that it took you this long to get that wrecked, given your heavy use throughout college.

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Huh...?
Can you think of anything else that 90% of hard drug users did before they became addicted?
I can: ate a hamburger, went to school, went to church, read a newspaper, etc.
So, what, do these activities lead to harder drugs as well?

SkuNkInMyBluNt

It's not that your just "VERY HIGH"...
This shit is fucked up, I've had that "whole world looks like a cartoon", and when you experience it, you feel trapped, like WTF, escpecially if you experience this a lot, then u start to questioning "reality", and start asking questions like "is the whole world really just in my head, and nothings real?" etc. etc.
I've done a lot of research on it, it's called DEPERSONALIZATION and DEREALIZATION... it's not a good thing to fuck wit' as their is no cure yet, I've talked with people smoking one joint, then being DP/DR 15 years etc.
It's connected wit' anxiety, but when you don't got any phobia, it's very hard to eliminate.

My suggestions: stay far away from weed 'til you "come down".
Exercise, keep your mind occupied, don't let it take your life over, cuz then u might be fuckdup for life... (seriously)

 

Cassius

Most of what you described seems like the normal effects of a marijuana high to me.

Marijuana elevates your heartrate, which causes an increase in bloodflow to all parts of your body.

Part of the effect it has on your short-term memory (inability to remember what you were thinking about a minute ago) means that your mind can tend to "wander". Especially if you are doing something repetitive that requires little concentration, like walking back to your dorm.

This is an effect that I and many others have observed, but I haven't been able to readily quantify the cause. However, I have often said to others that this is one of my favorite things about marijuana -- somehow, through the context of your mind wandering, you seem to always end up looking at the big picture of your life and thinking critically about "big picture things" (like how you appear to other people). It seems to remove some of the filters that we've created around our lives, wherein we justify certain things or think about things in a certain way. The marijuana high induces your brain to think about things in a way that it normally does not, and these filters are somehow bypassed. I love it, because it forces me to admit to myself things I normally would not even consider. It allows me to play devil's advocate with myself about my life because I gain the advantage of thinking about things objectively. Sometimes the "big picture" I see of my life isn't as pretty as I would like, but I appreciate the fact that I would rather get past my filters and see it so I can either correct it or accept it, rather than continue blindly in behavior/attitudes/etc that I do not even realize I am doing.

This one's a little tricky, because it could be several things at once, and "my consciousness was strange" is kinda vague. However I would say that it is most likely the effects of diminished short-term memory. Meaning, since you can't remember what you were doing or thinking about 2 minutes ago, you sort of "live in the moment", the way zen buddhists do. This causes your time perception to slow down.

"Frames" is a common depiction of an intense high by stoners, lots of people get it especially when they first start smoking. Again, it's a mixture of things, but rest assured it is perfectly normal. Thinking about it makes me want to take a hiatus to get my tolerance down so I could experience frames again myself! It's been a long time, and it's a very memorable feeling that I would like to experience again.

All your perceptions are intensified when high. Personally I think it is mostly due to the increased bloodflow to your sensory organs via your increased heartbeat, but the diminished short-term memory may have something to do with it also. That's why people love getting high and listening to music, because the sounds are intensified and you are able to pick up on nuances of the music that you missed when you were sober.

This is probably a combination of all the above, the "frames" giving you the out-of-body sensation, on top of the "big picture" thinking making it feel as though you were examining yourself spiritually from a third-person perspective.

In my opinion, you tripped yourself out. That's what panic attacks are anyway, anxiety that is dwelled on and so increases and increases until an anxiety attack occurs and you can't breathe, etc. It sounds like you didn't progress to that level, but that your worries about how you were feeling and what you were thinking about yourself and your life, became a "negative thought" and by dwelling on it, it made it worse.

In the past you were probably still getting used to smoking, and you didn't smoke yourself stupid because you were still getting used to it. Now that you're more adjusted, you're probably more willing to smoke a lot and this is probably what you did. Combined with the fact that it is a more potent strain that you smoked than you normally do, meant that you got a much more intense high than you were expecting or ready for.

I would say that, all in all, nothing that you described me worries me so much that I would recommend getting yourself checked out or anything like that, it all seems a pretty normal, albeit intense, high that you had, and you probably freaked yourself out some by dwelling on the negative things that you were worried about, so they intensified (as everything does when on a marijuana high). Your best bet is to just take it easy for a while -- the next few sessions that you smoke, smoke only a little until you get as high as you want, and then stop. If you get used to being a little high, you'll become comfortable with it again and you'll be able to dismiss any negative thoughts that arise (like dwelling on your accelerated heartbeat, etc), and then you will be ready for a stronger high again and hopefully be able to handle it without you freaking out.

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MrTinkertrain

Aah... that frames... i miss those :P

sometimes if u blink really fast it's almost like the effect, but not really!

Mamabudz

cut down on the caffeine intake ...

and skip the third bowl...

And you will be fine

Ryang87

Update:

So i decided again today to smoke some of the same haze with 2 of my buddies over at his house. We got a g worth and twisted a honey dutch with it. I told myself going in this time that i was not going to focus on my heartbeat at all. Plus, ive done something that ive never done before to take my mind off of the "high itself" and just enjoy it. So we put on the history channel and watched modern marvels, i think this was good for me because it was stimulating my mind and i had no time to think about being anxious or paranoid or anything like that. Yes i was once again high as a kite, it felt like my head was floating in the sky, did not get the "frames" this time, but rather just enjoyed the way i felt, was laughing alot and overall just had a really great experience with it today.

Cassius

Awesome! Glad to hear it man. Be careful the next few times you smoke too and after that you probably will never have a problem smoking again =)

Until you get old and develop lung problems forcing a switch to vaporizing and eating brownies. lol =P

Beats the hell out of the side effects of alcohol though, doesn't it?

Stay safe