As Indignant

This post isn't based on statistics or facts...i know almost nothing about the treatment of ADHD.
However, my buddy has ADHD and takes Adderall for it. When we smoked up with him he really mellowed out. He didn't even talk, just stared at the fire for most of the night.

So do you think weed could be used to settle down kids with ADHD? or is this just a special case?

be pretty cool if it did though.

doulaD

I know a bit about ADHD. My brother was "diagnosed" with it way back in my early teens and now every child alive (including one of my own) has been labeled as ADHD and now a new term pops up...Aspberger's which is a form of high-end autism. My child was labeled with that, too. Here is the kicker...they labeled him at age 4 and he is now 5 yrs old. He has outgrown most of his troublesome behavior but is still very spazzy (which makes him unique) and I dumped the docs who were labeling him. I took him to a medicine man instead and he said my son was fine, that I needed to hold and love him more. I have done that and my son is so much better! So all of that being said...

MJ as a treatment for ADHD is pointless. I say so because my brother used pot and I watched him go from lively and animated to dumb and "bump on a log". I know he also ran the gamut for every pill for ADHD as well. None of them made him better than what he already was as who he was. Now my son is one of the kids society wants to squash. And I won't have it. When my child was at his worst, I used other herbs and they worked great while letting him keep his energy. I gave him valerian tincture. I changed his diet to include more wholesome fats (butter, whole milk, grassfed beef/poultry/avocadoes, etc...) and gave him cod liver oil each day. He needed the increase in Vit A.

So my point is after all the rambling...don't try to flatten people with ADHD with pot or pills or anything that takes their vitality. They need help focusing. A good way to help them focus is to reduce outside stimulus and give time to think things through. ADHD people are overly creative, smart, exciting, usually funny, fantastic problem solvers, and highly handy in an emergency because they think so well on their feet and can quickly jump into action where the rest of us stand around going, "DERF!" So my suggestion about using pot as a treatment for ADHD is not to do it. I think letting ADHD people be celebrated instead of being shunned would be the best thing for everyone. Wouldn't it be cool if any kid labeled as ADHD got a coming out party to celebrate how cool they are? Anyway, if herbs are needed for treatment, some other herbs are better than pot because they don't flatten that person out. Valerian, hops, lavendar, catnip, chamomile, etc....

Sorry 'bout the long post. I am sure you will get a real good answer from other knowledgeable people on board who do use pot (I don't) and they can better answer that part of it. I am from a more "staid" lifestyle Just wanted to speak my expereince with ADHD and more natural treatments.

doulaD

Jordan70

Well, I have a buddy who has terribly bad adhd, he can't concentrate on anything, like he can't even concentrate on finishing his meals he's always on the go. He's prescribed concerta, but just smokes pot because it "fixes" him.
I actually know another guy who is annoying as hell if he doesn't smoke, he's got adhd too. People that are correctly diagnosed do have some sort of problem with attention among other things.

cepheus

i think weed can help ADHD. why? because back when i was in school (not high school but university) and i would get so anxious and distracted and frazzled that i couldn't start writing a paper, a couple hits would slow my brain enough to write . thats just an example.

nowadays, i dont believe i have ADD or ADHD, but i for sure 100% have tourette's (but not like you see on tv, they usually exaggerate it). tourette's is related to ADHD and is commonly accompanied by emotional issues such as depression, mood swings, irritability, obsessive inappropriate thoughts, and impulsiveness (a lot like ADHD). whenever i'm experiencing one of these things (which thank god is becoming more infrequent as i get older, 24 yrs old right now) weed almost always mellows me out and brings me back to baseline, be it up or down. i couldn't say it helps my tourette's tics but i'm alright with that cuz they aren't that bad anyway. so, i believe that marijuana can help some people with some of their problems associated with ADHD and certain related disorders.

and a final thought -- i agree with people who think most ADD diagnoses are false. why? cuz i read this book i got at Whole Foods called "The ADD and ADHD Diet" by Rachel Bell and Dr. Howard Peiper. this 75 page book is based on the idea that the brains and bodies of most people labled ADD are simply responding naturally to the food they eat. in addition thousands of food, chemical, and environmental allergies exist and most people have many that they don't know about. so i followed only about 5% of the suggestions in the book like cutting out almost all sugar, junk and fast food, and eating more vegetables, protein, healthy fats, and plain old yogurt (for digestional health). basically my brain and body feel like 20 times better now than before i made those changes . so try it out, or better yet pick up the book and read it, and keep smokin' plenty o' weed.

dasmusik

I really don't mean to flame or anything, but what on earth are you smoking? (no pun intended)

First of all, there is no such thing as "high-end Autism" Autism is a spectrum not a scale. Did you mean high-functioning? because if you did then saying that Asperger's Disorder is "high-functioning" is incorrect. Someone who is a "highly-functioning" austitic person, is someone with Autism (regardless of form) with an IQ of more than 70.

secondly, how does your child being spazzy make him unique? all kids are spazzy. they're kids. what did you expect?

you say that using Pot for ADHD is pointless, because your brother withdrew after using marijuana.
that argument is like saying you shouldn't use morphine as a pain reliever because john smith from down the street is an opiate addict.

While I don't disagree with you in that pot shouldn't be used to treat ADHD, you really gotta get your arguments straight.

The reason why marijuana shouldn't be used for ADD/ADHD is because it's completely inneffective. ADD/ADHD is caused by horomone imbalances, and what ADD medications due is balance those, usually through stimulants and sometimes inhibitors.

Using herbs to "help" your son is quite frankly BS. anything that you're gonna find in an herb that will actually help without potentially hurting your kid you'll find in normal food. What your kid (like most others with "ADHD") is more excercise. take him to the park, put him on a sports team. playdates with other kids are good too. And if you needed a 'medicine man' to tell you that more hugs and attention are good for your kid then you need a parenting class DESPERATELY. and if your kid needs Vit. A. then hand him a carrott. If you feel you must give him a damn flinstones multivitamin, but he needs to be eating food, not herbs and oils and crap.

"ADHD people are overly creative, smart, exciting, usually funny, fantastic problem solvers, and highly handy in an emergency because they think so well on their feet and can quickly jump into action where the rest of us stand around going, "DERF!"

you're almost as bad as gothic kids who say that goths are smarter/more creative blah blah blah.

there is nothing about ADHD that makes people creative, smart, exciting, funny, good problem solvers, or handy in an emergency. in fact a kid with true ADD would probably be horrible to have in an emergency as the emotional effects of ADD will probably make the person very hard to deal with as they will be freaking out on so many more levels than everyone else.

society is not trying to squash your son, you are with all these damn herbs and 'natural treatments.' make sure your kid drinks enough water, eats enough real food, gets enough love and attention but not overbearing, and most importantly EXCERCISE. almost every affliction that affects the masses has to do with a lack of excercise.

sorry if i flamed a little, but for the sake of your son, and others it needed to be said.

anyway as far as using marijuana for ADHD, true ADHD it won't do anything for. if it's attention problems due to anxiety or depression etc. it can help IF you use it properly and responsibly, but it's very tricky to coordinate that.
happy toking.

TheUnseenTruth

Hi, my names Alec, and I'm perscribed Adderal for my ADHD(Aderol i believe is how its spelled) and I have to say, I do believe marijuana could be used to calm children but; Thats just such a vast ammount of people. I THINK pretty much every kid who has trouble in school is put on the "not so harsh" Ritalin; However I do believe that at a certain stage it would be applicable.

Aderol (SP?) Is to my knowledge the strongest (save you some work buzz;-) )
off-topic thats perscribed; and after taking it for awhile I really think that its far too harmful to your body, to be worth the extra studying in school. I have alot of trouble sleeping at nights, and despite the doseage changes, i still have a decreased appetite, (if i havent eaten recently) shaky hands and tingly toes. I used to talk alot, almost uncontrollably when they first gave it to me.
MY POINT IS : marijuana doesnt do this to me, and I can focus just as well (without being a bumbling zombie) and without these harsh side effects.

This would also save the Gov. production, and related costs (wow, did that even make a dent in our spending?) and parents without insurance lots of money.

Great question !
-A

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Bong_Slacker

Yes! The herbs help ADHD! I had ADHD when I was a teenager and the doctors put me on ritalin and later dexedrine. That was the worst thing EVER! Both those drugs killed my creativity, killed my appetite, made it hard to sleep at night, and basically turned me into a all around zombie. ADHD is just a excuse to try and make you conform, they try to force you into a narrow path with those drugs. Besides that, most of those drugs are based on meth, and drug developed by NAZIs to create soldiers that never sleep. Think about it, do you really want your children using drugs based on a NAZI agenda? Herb however, calmed me down considerably without interfering with sleep, appetite, or creativity. After smoking for a while, I seemed to naturally grow out of ADHD. Today my concentration levels are so high, it borderlines obsessive. Naturally, everyone is different, but that's what it did for me.

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friday769

I am currently under the effects of Adderall as an individual diagnosed with attention deficet disorder. Now some people see ADD as something that just makes you hyper but those people are morons. people with ADD acually have problems, its extremly fustrating not being able to do your homework because you are distracted by something someone else says or by something you see in the hallway, or just something thats just plain interesting. Now the point im trying to get at is that in alot of ways MJ does help. due to my current perscription i have a deficent appetite. MJ helps that by giving the munchys. it allows me to gain weight lost by Adderall. now im not saying that adderall is the enemy eather, adderall is the reason im able to do so well in school. Before i was diagnosed in the 3rd grade i was going through school with straight D's now im an A-B student and im able to put positive input in class. But the downfall to this is that adderalls side effects are less than desirable, when im on adderal im very cranky, upset, and annoyed, and i dont have an appetite like i would prefer. but these are not enouph to make me stop taking it. I care too much about school to not take it. MJ helps alot to reverse the side effects of adderal that i dislike. Now just so you get it straight i would never take MJ before or during school. but afterwards when im with my friends it helps me be the person i aspire to be when im at school. it also helps me put myself back at a healthy weight(due to adderal i have no problem dropping 10lbs in a week, thats not right). so i know this post is kinda all over the place but i hope you can get some facts and mabey some answeres out of this, Marijuana isnt a cure, but it helps counterballence the undesired side effects of the drugs docters consider to be the best solution for ADD.

dedbr

I should say I'm not a doctor. That should come first so everything I say after can be taken with a grain of salt. I have no medical training to back any of this advice up, so caution should be used with anything thats said.


ADHD is something I'm not familiar with. It is definately well left to the health care professionals as well. As far as herb is concerned, I could perhaps give you some advice, but when it comes to this area, I would not presume to even begin to try to give advice that could maybe cause someone to get hurt.

If you have ADHD and use herb, I wish you happy times and good memories, and may all your buzzes be good ones.....


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Eldorado

Hey,
I have ADD (not ADHD) and smoke marijuana, not as a treament but because I like it. I am a career musician and require about two hours everyday for practice. I have noticed that when stoned I have far more productive practice sessions. I am sure a lot of this is because of the anhancement effects of marijuana. But I ofter wondered if maybe there is a connection between the effects of marijuana on the mind and how the mind functions during certain activities. If that makes any sense at all. I guess what mean is I would consider it effective in treating the symptoms of ADD in some situations.