TheDude0306

On the left side my shoulder and entire left pec (boob) muscles are severely inflamed. From the 10 years of using a computer, not sitting correctly.

A few months ago I went to a doctor, they gave me a shot of cortozon right into my shoulder. Amazingly the shoulder pain was gone a week later.

4 months later still no pain, but the left pec muscle (boob) was not fixed. It is still inflammed. The doctor told me to do these special excercises, but they have done nothing.

I begged him for another shot because the last one worked like a miracle, he told me they cannot give cortozone shots that close to the heart.

Well tommorow I am going to make another appointment with him.

THE MAJOR PROBLEM IS, when I smoke up (good nice mellow indica) the symptons are magnafied atleast 100X, the pain is so intense, I mean it hurts normally, but when I smoke up the pain is unreal.

The weed is of the highest quality, so it is not the bud.

Is this normal? Regardless I have to get this problem fixed, but untill then I just cannot smoke anymore.

Thanx.

Shaman

Well normally I would say it wouldn't affect it, but the location of your injury sounds like it might hurt to inhale ammounts of smoke into your lungs. Have a brownie ;-)

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lillifterchick

From what I understand, MJ is an antiflamitory

SacredNaCl

Certain pain conditions may actually become intensified. Cannabanoid receptors are spread throughout your body, they do a wide range of functions, it's quite possibly in your body that they would increase the pain. There is enough genetic variation out there to create problems in medicine called paradoxial reactions - a very minor sequence of a gene, a minorly different grouping of receptors - and drugs can have very different effects in this population than in the majority. It's also possible that in this particular type of pain cannabanoids have a normal effect that would work to increase the pain. I've talked to a few people who have TMJ, and several of them have told me that marijuana made their TMJ pain worse even though it stopped the muscle spasms.

An example or a paradoxial reaction: Approximately 1:1000 people who take morphine will have severe hallucinations long before they get any kind of pain relief, no matter how low or high the dose is. When they looked for the reason they found that the receptors they had for various Mu's were shaped just slightly different enough that it didn't bind fully to it, and it allowed the morphine metabolites to float around unbound in the CSF and get to places they would not normally get to and partially bind to receptors there. Another example, several asthma medications have been found to actually invoke asthma attacks in a small segment of users rather than relieve them.

If it's making your pain worse, knock it off till the condition heals. You also might want to have them run a full blood work panel on you to see if there is maybe a cause for the inflammation other than overuse, perhaps an appointment with a Rheumatologist would be in order if they find anything.
If this is something that has become chronic, it's quite possibly not just overuse.

Buttski

When we carry pain for a long period of time, we get used to it, i.e. our pain threshhold increases. Marijuana, heightens our senses, temporarily making us aware of how much pain we have in our body, which can be a good thing as we can then take steps to deal with it. Serious computer users develop pain in their shoulders, arms, etc.; this pain often originates from neck problems in the form of pinched nerves (if your computer screen wasn't positioned at eye level). A disk problem in the neck will easily masquerade as a problem in the shoulders, arms, and hands. Before going to extremes, i.e. cortisone shots, you might first try going to a chiropractor, to see if they can help. There are charts available to check which disk level can be involved in creating pain in your pec--I think it is C-4. C-3, and C-4 are the shoulders/chest/upper back muscles.

maligec

Here it goes guys...

I've had this mysterious pain for 4 months now. It comes and goes when I'm not toking but when I am it hurts real bad. The first 2-3 months I didn't do anything just to see how it would play out. After smoking I felt pain in different parts of the left side of my body, but the most intense was shoulder and back area and well nipple area too. I've experimented with great many things in trying to ease the pain such as sitting straight, loosening the hold of my pants on my hips( loosening the belt) , wrapping a cord around the ribs just beneath the hurting area while pressing on the area on the back just beneath the shoulder ( This turned out to be the greatest helper), sitting with my left or right leg crossed such as that my foot was resting on the knee of the other leg, and then there is also also pulling my dick up from the slouching hanging position towards my stomach which also helped ease the pain although I remain dumbfounded by this as well as you who are reading it. All in all, none of this truly resolves the issue or gets rid of the pain, it just helps to ease it. 3 weeks ago I went to the doctor, got an x-ray of the whole back which revealed that my spine was straight in a part where it should be curved or something like that as far as what the doctor told me. I thought this might be the problem, reading about this here and elsewhere (there not being great many posts or web sites about this). So what is it then, is it really as the nurse before me said a brain rejection of weed or is it a nerve in the spine that somehow got irritated. I don't know to be exact but I can tell you this; For the last many years I've done nothing but sit in front of a computer or in college with little activity at all so this is probably the cause; I've also read about patients who have spine injuries such as those from car accidents and alike having their pain increased same as described here when they smoke cigarettes.... Now this is very peculiar; They also said that their pain went away when they did not smoke for a couple of days. If it is the spine, and from what I have read not only here but in other places, most of us just simply have bad backs or have overused them. It's obvious that when we smoke we relax as do our muscles, sitting in a wrong position at that time can allow for the spine to get into positions muscles usually would not allow it thus bending it and leaving us with problems like these. Now, I would not argue my brain's had enough of marijuana, if it had why doesn't it just make the smell of it disgusting or make it taste like shit; it has the power to do that; Instead it's hurting me by inflicting pain in the left side of my body, from my knee all the way to my shoulder--> this does not make sense, but then again; most of the time our bodies don't anyway.

As for now, I'm currently going to therapy (regular exercises, electric stimulation, magnets (don't know how much this helps) and some spine exercises which along with all of this should help. I'm still toking, have been for the last 4 months not really giving the pain the pleasure of victory. I do the things I wrote of earlier to ease it and I can slide a good high even though I can feel it and it annoys me but what the hell, if that's the way it's gotta be, then let it be. I don't hold high hopes for the therapy but what are you gonna do; I have to try just to see. I wonder, you guys who wrote here already... what have you done and what's happened since; does anyone here have a happy ending?


Oh, also, I've found that not eating for a while (I've packed on a little weight in the last 2 years, but not too much) so that not eating for a while makes it all but go away.... I couldn't get myself through munchies without eating yet, but I'll try tonight (not eating while munchies are in effect is even worse than the pain) hehe jk --- That s*it HURTS !!!!!!!!!!!!


I just felt I needed to add, I know exactly when this pain started; I had a flu, was lying in bed for a couple of days and then before I got completely better, I went out and smoked and that's when the pain appeared. That's why the spine thing is a little weird story too. It doesn't start hurting when I inhale but it starts hurting only once I start to feel high- pretty weird

dirtbomb

I've found Pot to be an excellent analgesic, especially when vaped.
Everybody is different, though.

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maligec

Yea, I know, it's been to me too until this started happening

maligec

Actually there's a pretty good discussion about this here;

does marijuana cause back pain? >> Medical Questions, Weight Loss, Pregnancy, Drugs, Health Insurance

maligec

It seems this thread has died, I've quit smoking, the pain was becoming too intense. Both cigarettes and mj are out of the question until further notice.