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JoeyLance · 02-25-2007, 03:20 PM

Hey yall,
Have smoked on and off for the last 6 years or so. Not an addict, just do it socially in college, and now on the weekends, I go through my phases. I have fainted three times from smoking weed. This third time has got me a little concerned and hopefully you guys can help.

Last night I fainted, was smoking a few bowls around 7pm, then again at 10pm and then 1030.. Was pretty stoned all night, only had a hot dog and a pretzel at a sixers game, was probably a little dehydrated, had about two beers at the game, a shot of jack and a jack and diet at the bar after 11pm... Smoked a few cigs and started to feel faint downstairs in a bar where I was listening to a very very loud band, I smoked a cig and just needed fresh air before I was going to pass out. Everything started to get blurry as I was walking out of the bar, I finally made it outside, stumbled around on the sidewalk and just lost my legs, fell about three times in a fainting kind of way, but somehow kept getting up. My stomache hurt and I crawled on the side of an alley, very afraid of what was going to happen to me. I called my friend from inside but could barely speak. I was slurring my speech as if I were roofied and could not stand up. He got me a coke with caffeine, and I laid down in the freezing cold for maybe 45 mins. I was not that freezing, most of these fainting stories have you guys shivering and getting cold. I had only shivered if I were having a panic attack. I could talk fine after an hour, just a little dazed the rest of the night and afraid to sleep incase I had a concussion. I slept and today still dont seem 100 percent, but I played two hours of basketball and had a good run, not hung over becuase my tolerance with drinking is a lot more than what I drank last night.

Two summers ago at bonnarroo I gulped down a large goo-ball or whatever its called with nugg in it. Also was smoking and probably dehydrated in general just because its so hot in Tennessee for the concerts. Probably didnt have the right nutrition in me. We got to the Black Crows concert, I smoked a cig, and turned to my friend (who says i became pale) and said I am going to pass out, I fell flat on my face. Of course my friends just let me fall infront of them (assholes), they said they were slapping my face and trying to get me to wake up. One of my friends, which im not sure was telling the truth, said I was shaking almost like a sezuire. I was probably out for a few seconds. Someone through some water on my face and when I woke up I freaked out and put my fist up like I was ready to hit the man saving my life. My two friends picked me up and started to walk me through the crowd.. I lost my legs once and kind of fainted again, but they caught me and kept me on walking. We walked all the way back to the campsite. I had slurred speech and it felt like I could not focus for the whole night. I slept good that night though.

The third time I fainted was not really a big concern because I thought it was just because a mixture of heavy drinking with smoking at the end of the night. I felt faint and stood up to walk to the bathroom to puke or something, I didnt even make two feet and fell on my face again. I was worried and told my friends to take me to the hospital, they told me to relax and lay down.

Yes every single time I fell foward on my face.. pretty funny, but another pattern is that I am always trying to make it to a certain point. For instance, I am always trying to walk somewhere, like I dont want to give up and just lay on the street, I was determined to walk somewhere and get help last night. I didnt think marijuana had these type of effects, until I did some research online. I see that fainting is an effect, usually with low blood sugar. Doesnt liquor have sugar in it though, however I am constantly going to the bathroom? Please let me know what you think. In these cases I did not really have any shivering, like losing blood flow circulation.

Thanks guys and girls hope to hear from you soon,

JoeyLance · 02-25-2007, 03:33 PM

guess I should have read this before posting this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by txmedstudent

this is some medical dogma explaining why some people faint whilst stoned. while the exact reason marijuana makes you (and me) "high" has not been conclusively deduced, we do know that smoking weed causes a net increase in activity of the parasympathetic nervous system (which prepares your body for resting and feeding) compared to your sympathetic nervous system (your body uses this in situations of intense activity -- fight or flight defensive mechanism in animals). Whether the net increase is due to a rise in parasympathetic activity, a decrease in sympathetic activity, or a combination of both is simply not understood... those rascally cannabinoid receptors look really common as far as receptors go, but no one can seem to figure out what their function is once bound to cannabinoids.

REVIEW: BODY IS IN BIOLOGICALLY PROGRAMMED "CHILL, EAT, RECOVER MODE (Parasympathetic System) WHEN HIGH

so some things that happen when your body goes in to this rest/feeding mode include decrease heart rate and contractile strength, blood is shunted away from skeletal muscle and to the GI tract for digestion, and the relevant one here: SMOKING WEED CAN LOWER BlOOD PRESSURE, AND THIS LOSS OF BLOOD PRESSURE CAN CAUSE FAINTING (because the brain isn't getting enough oxygen, so itsuddenly turns off all the other oxygen-hogging sytems in the body and you are probably unconscious before you hit the floor -- especially when you stand up after a nice long ass-resting session, since the "turned-off" sympathetic system is normally responsible for producing a sudden increase in blood pressure that keeps us all from fainting every time we stand up).

anyway, there it is. while passing out on a regular basis is not the
healthiest thing for your brain, it's rare that the someone would lose blood perfusion of the brain for long enough to cause brain damage.. however, the most dangerous thing about passing out is that you are likely to hit your head on something and get a concussion on top of the fainting... pretty rough on the old bean, eh? it's like th number one rule for taking nitrous... do it sitting down.

although it is not the biggest contributor to loss of bp, losing water through excess urination can often cause significant loss of water from the blood, and thus noticeably lower blood pressure. lots of folks feel that they piss significantly more when smoking weed... this is a documented phenomenon, although different smokers experience the effects at different intensities (some go 3 x an hour, some notice no change). This is thought to occur through the same mechanism that alcohol affects to make us piss more... by inhibiting the secretion of a hormone called ADH (antidiuretic hormone). Certainly smoking weed and drikning a few beers will cause excess urination --> dehydration --> low blodd pressure --> fainting spell. SO, SINCE EXCESS FLUID LOSS CONTRIBUTES TO ONE'S RISK OF FAINTING, MAKE SURE TO DRINK TONS OF WATER BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER YOU GET STONED. I can't promise this will work for everyone, but I'll bet that some of you notice the difference. another thing that helps when drinking large volumes of water (call it a liter per session) is to eat something a little salty (potato chips, pizza, munchies in general) to help retain the water in your tissues (this will give your body a fluid reserve to buffer the effects of any future fluid loss)

hope this helps

jb

rachelreay · 08-18-2008, 07:27 PM

can anyone else verify that the shaking while fainting from being high is normal? this happened to me two days ago, similarly at a concert.

Bhikku · 08-18-2008, 08:38 PM

I wouldn't say it's normal, per se, but it's not uncommon.

I know a few people that have fallen out, and I personally have come close to fainting a handful of times while high from loss of blood pressure. My vision grays and there is a loud ringing in my ears which grows louder and louder, while everything else becomes more muffled. It's sometimes accompanied by an intense wave of nausea.

In all of these situations, I have laid down immediately for about half an hour, and although I felt a little drained afterward, I soon returned to normal. The odd thing is though, after each of these spells, I felt significantly higher afterwards than I did before....

Daddyo · 08-18-2008, 09:33 PM

Either you`re having too much fun, or you need to see a doctor, and be truthful with them. I myself have often fainted from mixing beer and other alcohol. I can`t imagine myself adding marijuana to the mix. As to your symptoms, anything from abuse of substance to brain tumor/everything outside might be the cause. If you continue to have need of getting that fucked up just remember you will not fall flat on your face too many more times before you`re seriously injured; the brain can`t stand up to sudden stops for very long.

weedidas · 08-19-2008, 02:36 AM

Quote:

some things that happen when your body goes in to this rest/feeding mode include decrease heart rate and contractile strength, blood is shunted away from skeletal muscle and to the GI tract for digestion

So does this explain why when I got too high this one night, I lost a lot of circulation in my hands and face and wen't pale? But my heart rate sure never decreased, it was at about 190.

Daddyo · 08-19-2008, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedidas

So does this explain why when I got too high this one night, I lost a lot of circulation in my hands and face and wen't pale? But my heart rate sure never decreased, it was at about 190.

Yahoo answers What makes someone go pale and faint when u have smoked to much weed ? - Yahoo! Answers

Richi · 08-19-2008, 03:45 AM

It sounds like you've diagnosed the problem yourself. Lack of nutrients and energy along with limited sleep and a combination of drugs can cause you to faint.

Bhikku described very well what happens when someone smokes too much too fast. Take it easy.

Ckot · 08-19-2008, 06:08 AM

I had something kind of similar happen to me before, about 4 years ago, nothing like it had ever happened to me before or after this time. A friend and I toked up in my friends car in a parking lot then went to a 24 hr. Starbucks near my house to smoke hookah outside. I had pretty bad cotton mouth so I went inside to get a drink, then when I was waiting in line I blacked out for a second and felt my head bounce off the floor. I was like, holy shit, wtf is goin on... Then I tried to get up and it happened again. By that time people were coming to help me, and some lady was asking me if I was a diabetic, which I'm not. Luckily all of my friends were outside and no one saw this happen. I felt better in a few minutes but it's never happened since then and I don't know how to explain it.

steakii · 08-19-2008, 06:44 AM

Dehydration, lack of eating, and being high all lower blood pressure. I have passed out before from being high and not eating or drinking anything before hand. Just keep hydrated, and eat food, and this will not happen again.

02-25-2007, 03:20 PM	#1
JoeyLance New Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2 Grams: 681.65 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Fainting concerns Hey yall, Have smoked on and off for the last 6 years or so. Not an addict, just do it socially in college, and now on the weekends, I go through my phases. I have fainted three times from smoking weed. This third time has got me a little concerned and hopefully you guys can help. Last night I fainted, was smoking a few bowls around 7pm, then again at 10pm and then 1030.. Was pretty stoned all night, only had a hot dog and a pretzel at a sixers game, was probably a little dehydrated, had about two beers at the game, a shot of jack and a jack and diet at the bar after 11pm... Smoked a few cigs and started to feel faint downstairs in a bar where I was listening to a very very loud band, I smoked a cig and just needed fresh air before I was going to pass out. Everything started to get blurry as I was walking out of the bar, I finally made it outside, stumbled around on the sidewalk and just lost my legs, fell about three times in a fainting kind of way, but somehow kept getting up. My stomache hurt and I crawled on the side of an alley, very afraid of what was going to happen to me. I called my friend from inside but could barely speak. I was slurring my speech as if I were roofied and could not stand up. He got me a coke with caffeine, and I laid down in the freezing cold for maybe 45 mins. I was not that freezing, most of these fainting stories have you guys shivering and getting cold. I had only shivered if I were having a panic attack. I could talk fine after an hour, just a little dazed the rest of the night and afraid to sleep incase I had a concussion. I slept and today still dont seem 100 percent, but I played two hours of basketball and had a good run, not hung over becuase my tolerance with drinking is a lot more than what I drank last night. Two summers ago at bonnarroo I gulped down a large goo-ball or whatever its called with nugg in it. Also was smoking and probably dehydrated in general just because its so hot in Tennessee for the concerts. Probably didnt have the right nutrition in me. We got to the Black Crows concert, I smoked a cig, and turned to my friend (who says i became pale) and said I am going to pass out, I fell flat on my face. Of course my friends just let me fall infront of them (assholes), they said they were slapping my face and trying to get me to wake up. One of my friends, which im not sure was telling the truth, said I was shaking almost like a sezuire. I was probably out for a few seconds. Someone through some water on my face and when I woke up I freaked out and put my fist up like I was ready to hit the man saving my life. My two friends picked me up and started to walk me through the crowd.. I lost my legs once and kind of fainted again, but they caught me and kept me on walking. We walked all the way back to the campsite. I had slurred speech and it felt like I could not focus for the whole night. I slept good that night though. The third time I fainted was not really a big concern because I thought it was just because a mixture of heavy drinking with smoking at the end of the night. I felt faint and stood up to walk to the bathroom to puke or something, I didnt even make two feet and fell on my face again. I was worried and told my friends to take me to the hospital, they told me to relax and lay down. Yes every single time I fell foward on my face.. pretty funny, but another pattern is that I am always trying to make it to a certain point. For instance, I am always trying to walk somewhere, like I dont want to give up and just lay on the street, I was determined to walk somewhere and get help last night. I didnt think marijuana had these type of effects, until I did some research online. I see that fainting is an effect, usually with low blood sugar. Doesnt liquor have sugar in it though, however I am constantly going to the bathroom? Please let me know what you think. In these cases I did not really have any shivering, like losing blood flow circulation. Thanks guys and girls hope to hear from you soon,

08-18-2008, 08:38 PM	#4
Bhikku Ushering in the Zen. Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 949 Grams: 7,246.91 Groans: 10 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Thanks: 338 Thanked 253 Times in 155 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I wouldn't say it's normal, per se, but it's not uncommon. I know a few people that have fallen out, and I personally have come close to fainting a handful of times while high from loss of blood pressure. My vision grays and there is a loud ringing in my ears which grows louder and louder, while everything else becomes more muffled. It's sometimes accompanied by an intense wave of nausea. In all of these situations, I have laid down immediately for about half an hour, and although I felt a little drained afterward, I soon returned to normal. The odd thing is though, after each of these spells, I felt significantly higher afterwards than I did before.... __________________ "Being high is one of the most pleasant sensations available to mankind. Every day is Saturday. It is to be like a child; to perceive events with clarity; to look into the gates of paradise; to completely enjoy whatever you might be doing."

08-18-2008, 09:33 PM	#5
Daddyo New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 80 Grams: 1,487.80 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 4 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 15 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Reply to Thread Either you`re having too much fun, or you need to see a doctor, and be truthful with them. I myself have often fainted from mixing beer and other alcohol. I can`t imagine myself adding marijuana to the mix. As to your symptoms, anything from abuse of substance to brain tumor/everything outside might be the cause. If you continue to have need of getting that fucked up just remember you will not fall flat on your face too many more times before you`re seriously injured; the brain can`t stand up to sudden stops for very long.

08-19-2008, 03:45 AM	#8
Richi Modern Day Psychonaut Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,784 Grams: 7,827.68 Groans: 6 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts Thanks: 884 Thanked 904 Times in 317 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: -1.000%	It sounds like you've diagnosed the problem yourself. Lack of nutrients and energy along with limited sleep and a combination of drugs can cause you to faint. Bhikku described very well what happens when someone smokes too much too fast. Take it easy. __________________ 1000 things to do while stoned, and more... ...From The Lounge.....

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rachelreay New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3 Grams: 157.50 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	can anyone else verify that the shaking while fainting from being high is normal? this happened to me two days ago, similarly at a concert.

08-19-2008, 06:08 AM	#9
Ckot New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 19 Grams: 303.70 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I had something kind of similar happen to me before, about 4 years ago, nothing like it had ever happened to me before or after this time. A friend and I toked up in my friends car in a parking lot then went to a 24 hr. Starbucks near my house to smoke hookah outside. I had pretty bad cotton mouth so I went inside to get a drink, then when I was waiting in line I blacked out for a second and felt my head bounce off the floor. I was like, holy shit, wtf is goin on... Then I tried to get up and it happened again. By that time people were coming to help me, and some lady was asking me if I was a diabetic, which I'm not. Luckily all of my friends were outside and no one saw this happen. I felt better in a few minutes but it's never happened since then and I don't know how to explain it.

08-19-2008, 06:44 AM	#10
steakii Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,607 Grams: 16,027.40 Groans: 7 Groaned at 25 Times in 11 Posts Thanks: 175 Thanked 330 Times in 266 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Dehydration, lack of eating, and being high all lower blood pressure. I have passed out before from being high and not eating or drinking anything before hand. Just keep hydrated, and eat food, and this will not happen again.

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