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Old 03-16-2007, 01:01 AM   #1
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I have a question as to whether I qualify for medicinal marijuana (should i try for it)...


In 6th grade (about 7 years ago, Im 18 now) I fell on the play ground and dislocated, fractured, and broke a piece of bone off of my elbow. Id say around 3 or 4 times a week I twist it in a weird way or apply pressure to it in an awkward position and the word pain doesn't begin to describe the feeling I get. Its excruciating and doesnt end for a while. (about 2-5 hours of real pain, sore for a day).

I've never said anything to my doctor about it (If it doesnt kill you, why complain..is the kinda mentality I have when it comes to doctors. When I broke my wrist, it took me 22 days to get into the hospital. Dont do that. When they have to rebreak it, you immediately regret not going sooner.) So there hasnt been a history of it. My friend told me that was one thing they looked at.

When I smoke marijuana, it relieves me of the pain very thoroughly. Very few times (about 1 out of 7) does some slight soreness return after not smoking for more then 6 hours.


It would make things a lot easier for me if I could just smoke legally to help with the pain. Im not sure if I qualify, and if I should try for the card or not. Thanks for all your help.
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Old 03-16-2007, 01:46 AM   #2
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Without knowing what state you are in, I can only give you general info...

Pick your state and see what info we have here, to start with.
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Old 03-16-2007, 02:07 AM   #3
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O i apologize. Im in california. Near Santa Rosa. (County: Sonoma County)
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Old 03-16-2007, 01:14 PM   #4
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I have a question as to whether I qualify for medicinal marijuana (should i try for it)...


In 6th grade (about 7 years ago, Im 18 now) I fell on the play ground and dislocated, fractured, and broke a piece of bone off of my elbow. Id say around 3 or 4 times a week I twist it in a weird way or apply pressure to it in an awkward position and the word pain doesn't begin to describe the feeling I get. Its excruciating and doesnt end for a while. (about 2-5 hours of real pain, sore for a day).

I've never said anything to my doctor about it (If it doesnt kill you, why complain..is the kinda mentality I have when it comes to doctors. When I broke my wrist, it took me 22 days to get into the hospital. Dont do that. When they have to rebreak it, you immediately regret not going sooner.) So there hasnt been a history of it. My friend told me that was one thing they looked at.

When I smoke marijuana, it relieves me of the pain very thoroughly. Very few times (about 1 out of 7) does some slight soreness return after not smoking for more then 6 hours.


It would make things a lot easier for me if I could just smoke legally to help with the pain. I'm not sure if I qualify, and if I should try for the card or not. Thanks for all your help.
I will preface my comments by saying that I believe that anyone ought to be able to use marihuana for medicinal purposes without having to get permission from a doctor, let alone the Government.
That said, it sounds to me like you really should find a good doctor or therapist to review your condition. I suspect you will gain substantial relief if you start getting some care specific to the cause of your injuries / pain. You are quite fortunate to be living in Northern California in that regard. The vast number of high quality therapists employing state of the art treatment, both conventional and non-conventional are easily at your disposal.
I doubt that a reputable Doctor is going to provide you with a Medical Marihuana Recommendation at this point, that is, without you engaging in a serious attempt at 'fixing the problem' first. Give it a go. It's always better to fix the problem. Living with pain and a situation where the best you can do is treat the symptoms is a very poor substitute...
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I doubt that a reputable Doctor is going to provide you with a Medical Marihuana Recommendation at this point, that is, without you engaging in a serious attempt at 'fixing the problem' first.
I don't know about "reputable", but there are plenty of licensed physicians in CA who specialize in providing medical marijuana recommendations for just about any condition you can name. I read about them all the time in the Marijuana.com news section. According to these articles, you walk in, tell the doc what your problem is, he writes you a recommendation, and you pay the fee.
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:43 PM   #6
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I don't know about "reputable", but there are plenty of licensed physicians in CA who specialize in providing medical marijuana recommendations for just about any condition you can name. I read about them all the time in the Marijuana.com news section. According to these articles, you walk in, tell the doc what your problem is, he writes you a recommendation, and you pay the fee.
Perhaps.
Regardless, you bring up an interesting dilemma.
I do believe strongly in marihuana as an effective means of relief from quite a number of serious medical issues. This stems from an abundance of well regarded studies over many many years. It also stems from an even larger abundance of empirical data compiled over thousands of years. More importantly, for me anyway, is first hand experience over many decades.
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I believe that anyone ought to be able to use marihuana for medicinal purposes without having to get permission from a doctor, let alone the Government.
So, therein lies the rub. The Federal government continues to maintain marijuana as a Schedule 1 drug subjecting our citizenry to outrageous persecution and IMHO opinion has no business interfering with an individual obtaining medication that best serves their needs. So - you say - why then, under such circumstances, be critical of a person obtaining their medication any way they can. On some level I don't disagree. Certainly, it is safer, more convenient and more likely to provide better quality 'meds' to many who need them than what they encounter on the 'street'.
At the same time I believe that we, in this country, are poised upon a monumental breakthrough regarding the legalization of marihuana, for reasons medical and otherwise. To say our current foothold has been hard won would be a major understatement. So many people have worked so hard and sacrificed so much to get us where we are now. If we play by 'their' rules, more or less, and continue to engage them within the system and not screw it up by playing into their hands during this process then the outcome so hard fought will be ours. A realistic conclusion, I believe . (Don't laugh, I'll do it for you)
That said, the other issue at hand is just as important. "Maryj_" clearly has a serious health issue to confront. At 18 years old the last thing a person wants to do is forgo the process of fixing the problem and settle for treating the symptom. BIG mistake. Yeah, at 18 one is invincible but the price 10, 20 etc. years down the road, of injury/s ignored will likely be one of lifetime's great mistakes - and regret...
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If we play by 'their' rules, more or less, and continue to engage them within the system and not screw it up by playing into their hands during this process then the outcome so hard fought will be ours.
I would say that as long as you have a recommendation from a appropriately licensed medical professional you are playing by their rules. If you actually have a medical condition and a doctor recommends marijuana, you're good-to-go. The doctor might be criticized for giving out recommendations too readily, but the patient would be operating fully within the state laws.
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I would say that as long as you have a recommendation from a appropriately licensed medical professional you are playing by their rules. If you actually have a medical condition and a doctor recommends marijuana, you're good-to-go.
No you are not playing by their rules. The intent of Calif. 215 leaves a number of questions unanswered but the intent is clear. Just because a "Doctor" is willing to ignore or play fast and loose in that regard doesn't make it consistent with what we voted for. And like I pointed our earlier -
[quote]So many people have worked so hard and sacrificed so much to get us where we are now. If we play by 'their' rules, more or less, and continue to engage them within the system and not screw it up by playing into their hands during this process then the outcome so hard fought will be ours.
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The doctor might be criticized for giving out recommendations too readily, but the patient would be operating fully within the state laws.
Not necessarily so. There have been and continue to be any number of "Doctors" who have been flagged by dispensaries and law enforcement as little more than 'prescription for sale services', rather than prescription based on merit. This is an enormous disservice to the the public at large for reason I shouldn't have to explain. And as it pertains to a MMJ patient - their safety from persecution / prosecution is in jeopardy as well.

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Phizer isn't breaking any laws. Profiteering owners of supposedly non-profit dispensaries are. The whole system of medical marijuana breaks down when dispensaries sell to people without legitimate physician's recommendations. The physicians who write recommendations for people without a real medical need contribute to the problem.
Forgive me but sometimes it seems you argue just for the sake of arguing. How about a simple word of Thanks once in a while to one who is just trying to be helpful...

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Forgive me but sometimes it seems you argue just for the sake of arguing.
You're forgiven. I do. I want all sides of an issue to be presented. Sometimes there's a side that I personally don't support which has been neglected and I'll bring it up.

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In the case of doctors recommending medical marijuana, I would prefer that all such recommendations be for real illnesses.

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The doctor might be criticized for giving out recommendations too readily, but the patient would be operating fully within the state laws.
Those statements are not contradictory. The first has to do with furthering the cause for medical marijuana. The second has to do with operating within the law.

I haven't heard about any patients with authentic doctor's recommendations getting busted, nor have I heard about doctors getting busted for passing out recommendations when the patient's case didn't seem to warrant it. I watch the news pretty closely, but it's quite possible that I missed something.
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