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mircat · 03-21-2003, 01:32 PM

I am pregnant. I have recently been RX ZOFRAN for my nausea. My husband says pot will do the same thing, for cheaper. Where can I find out the adverse affects of marijuana on the baby?

mircat · 03-21-2003, 01:56 PM

I am pregnant, and am very nausea all the time. I have been Rx a med used by chemo and radiation patients. Would the use of MJ have the same effects? Also, where can I find statistical studies on the affects of MJ on the baby?

nyazga · 03-21-2003, 02:09 PM

Good God No MJ does have Toxic stuff in it, regardless of what I would like to think. Whould you have objected to your mom smoking MJ while you were in the womb. The sicker you are the healther the baby will be. Try those wrist bands with the bead on them for nausha, they provided my wife with some relief.

turtle1965 · 03-21-2003, 03:21 PM

Hello mircat,
There was a good article in cannibus culture about pot and pregnancy you might want to check out.
I am also pregnant. How many months are you?
Email me if you want to find the article or just to write.
Later,
Turtle

CheebaMonkey · 03-21-2003, 04:48 PM

I'll type out the section from Understanding Marijuana: A New Look At The Scientific Evidence about pregnancy for ya.

I'll edit the post later on.

CheebaMonkey · 03-22-2003, 06:10 AM

From Understanding Marijuana: A New Look At The Scientific Evidence by Mitch Earleywine.

Quote:

The behavior of pregnant women has become a giant health concern that may mirror attitudes about sex and sexism (Stoltenberg, 1988). Some states may prosecute pregnant women to avoid prenatal health care, dramatically increasing the chances of problematic deliveries. Laws like this assume that illicit drugs damage the fetus. Research designed to asses the impact of marijuana on the fetus is often compounded by polysubstance abuse. Investigators often must limit their work to countries like Jamaica, where women who smoke cannabis are not particularly likely to use other drugs. Alternatively, researchers can estimate the effects of other drugs like alcohol and cocaine and then see if marijuana use contributes to additional problems.

The limited available research suggests that marijuana may have little effect on offspring when they are young. Problems related to prenatal marijuana exposure may not appear until children reach the age of 4 or older. These might include an increase in problems related to attention and delinquency. yet the women who choose to use cannabis during pregnancy may have behavioral problems themselves, making it unclear if their children develop troubles because of marijuana exposure, genetics, or poor parenting. Animal studies can avoid this problem by administering the drug to a random sample while ensuring that another group receives no drugs. These experiments show that extremely large doses can lower birth weights, as well as increase spontaneous abortions and deformities, but generalizing these data to humans requires considerable caution (Zimmer & Morgan, 1997).

Research on extremely young children exposed to marijuana prenatally shows few effects. A study of more than 12,000 newborns found no link between cannabis use and gestation, birth weight, or malformations (Linn et al., 1983). Other studies found statistically significant results in large samples, but these often have little practical meaning. For example, research on 583 women showed shorter gestation periods for those who smoked cannabis 6 times per week while pregnant. Yet their babies were born an average of only 6 days early, once investigators controlled for the effects of alcohol and nicotine. Other work has found no link between marijuana use and the length of gestation (Witter & Niebyl, 1990). Cannabis use had no impact on birth weight, either (Fried, Watkinson, & Wilian, 1984).

Other studies of very young children prenatally exposed to marijuana also show few meaningful effects. At 3 days and at 1 month of age, the offspring of mothers who smoked cannabis in Jamaica seemed no different from those born of mothers who never touched the drug. In fact, children of heavy users appeared less irritable, as well as more alert and stable (Dreher, Nugent, & Hudgins, 1994). In addition, the cognitive abilities of Jamaican children age 4 or 5 appeared unharmed by prenatal marijuana exposure (Hayes, Lampart, Dreher, & Morgan, 1994). These studies may provide some of the best information on the impact of marijuana exclusively because the use of other drugs is less common in Jamaica. Several North American studies also showed no effect of prenatal marijuana use on a few different measures. For example, American children exposed to marijuana prenatally showed no deficit on gross motor skills at age 3 (Chandler, Richardson, Gallagher, & Day, 1996) and no differences in total growth age age 6 (Day, Richardson, Geva, & Robles, 1994).

Although the studies above suggest little negative consequences for smoking marijuana during pregnancy, research that follows the children for a longer period reveals some potentially disturbing links to cognitive abilities and behavior problems. For example, children exposed to marijuana prenatally showed problems with a sustained attention task when they reached age 6 (Fried, Watkinson, & Gray, 1992). Another commendable longitudinal study followed over 600 mothers through pregnancy until their children reached age 10 (Goldschmidt, Day, & Richarson, 2000). Prenatal exposure to marijuana predicted several behavioral problems in this sample. Mothers who smoked cannabis while pregnant reported that their children were more impulsive and hyperactive and had more trouble paying attention. In addition, these children's teachers rated them more delinquent. Mothers who did not smoke cannabis during pregnancy had half the rate of delinquency in their children as the mothers who smoked one joint per day. These effects remained even when the researchers controlled for other contributors to these problems, including the mother's use of other drugs, her depression, and her hostility.

These data suggest that prenatal exposure to cannabis can increase troubles many years later. Nevertheless, the authors caution that they did not take the mother's own behavioral problems into account. Perhaps inattentive, hyperactive, impulsive, delinquent women are more likely to use cannabis during pregnancy. These problems might also have a genetic component. Thus, the children might have inherited these troubles from their mothers regardless of marijuana exposure. Alternatively, mohters with these qualities may serve as poor parents, leading their children to develop problems.

In addition, the resarchers performed dozens of analyses only to reveal a few significant effects. They did not correct their statistics for the number of analyses conducted. Therefore, some of these findings may have occurred simply by chance. As a result, a clear, confirmed link between prenatal exposure to cannabis and later problems remains elusive. Nevertheless, pregnant women would probably do well to abstain from all drugs, as their long-term impact on offspring if often negative or unknown.

Hope that helps.

CheebaMonkey · 03-22-2003, 06:14 AM

Articles from Cannabis Culture.

Dr. Melanie Dreher, Reefer Researcher Part 1

Ganja mothers, ganja babies Part 2

Herb Ninja · 03-22-2003, 06:17 AM

Please don't start 2 threads that are exactly the same in different forums. Its kinda silly and wasteful.

Welcome to Cheaptalk.

CheebaMonkey · 03-22-2003, 06:36 AM

nyazga, in general be careful when you label something as toxic.

From reference.dictionary.com

Quote:

Capable of causing injury or death, especially by chemical means; poisonous: food preservatives that are toxic in concentrated amounts; a dump for toxic industrial wastes. See Synonyms at poisonous.

So, for something to be considered toxic, it has to cause death or an injury.

No one has ever overdosed on THC.

Off the top of my head, the only physical negative impacts of THC I can think of is lowered sperm count and motility (which actually hasn't been proven to negatively affect fertility in normal men and women), and interference with memory while high. Those really aren't "injuries."

As I was looking through a book I ran across this.

Quote:

Media reports highlight tales of increased THC content in new strains of cannabis, leading some to worry about the potential of a fatal overdose. Yet cannabis is essentially nontoxic. No one has ever died of THC poisoning (Iversen, 2000).

From Understanding Marijuana: A New Look At The Scientific Evidence by Mitch Earleywine.

The reason why he says it is essentially nontoxic is that scientists have administered ridiculously high doses to animals to cause death. So if we apply that to people, in theory, a human can overdose on THC, but it has yet to happen.

Roy · 03-22-2003, 01:19 PM

Ginger is the least expensive alternative. Yes plain old ginger is the best thing to treat nausea with. For nausea I use a nickel sized piece of crystallized ginger (Ginger coated with sugar). Crystallized ginger can be found in the bulk food section of supermarkets.
You should consult with your doctor about using it while pregnant. There is a study being conducted on the effectiveness of ginger for treating pregnant women:
http://www.adelaide.edu.au/pr/media/.../ginger00.html

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nyazga New Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 6 Grams: 665.30 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Good God No MJ does have Toxic stuff in it, regardless of what I would like to think. Whould you have objected to your mom smoking MJ while you were in the womb. The sicker you are the healther the baby will be. Try those wrist bands with the bead on them for nausha, they provided my wife with some relief.

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turtle1965 New Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 50 Grams: 658.60 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Hello mircat, There was a good article in cannibus culture about pot and pregnancy you might want to check out. I am also pregnant. How many months are you? Email me if you want to find the article or just to write. Later, Turtle

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