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Old 05-04-2003, 07:31 PM   #1
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Default Questions on medical marijuana

Here's are some questions I've got:

What form is marijuana given in to patients (synthetic THC pill [I think it's called Marinol?], smoking, dried shake put in a pill, brownies , etc)?

Do the patients have a choice of their method of use?

Has anyone ever tried juicing a fresh marijuana plant, and what were the results of drinking the juice?

What about steaming marijuana like you would a veggetable? If you put a cloth over a steamer and put your head in there and breathed in the steam, would you get high, or any medical benefits?

Do you get stoned from taking Marinol?

Do you have to get stoned in order to see the medical benefits?
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Old 05-04-2003, 08:43 PM   #2
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although im obviously pro-legalization/pro-marijuana, i disagree completly with the fact that marijuana can in any way be medicinal. i really hope im not just sending out an invite for everyone to start bashing on me, but i dont see how.

they say it rids nausea feeling, and pain. whenever im nauseas i dont smoke, cause if i do i usually end up having a real crappy high, and a hangover with a whooping headache, sore throat, and extreme lazyness/tiredness.

they also perscribe it for relief of pain and whatnot. well when im high, no matter how high i am, i can still feel pain. sometimes the pain is worse when your high, so i dont see how they can make that claim.

the only positive "medicinal" purpose i see coming from it is calming of the mind for elders who are stressed or something.


*a lot of my information is problebly wrong, considering i did no research prior to this post. so please, if you want to reply yelling, "You don't know what your talking about!!! you stupid ****er! theres zillions other reasons why its medicinal!" reply instead calmly explaining what information i missed or got wrong.

**oh, and sorry chiksic if i messed up your question or changed the subject, i didnt mean to.
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Old 05-04-2003, 10:21 PM   #3
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they say it rids nausea feeling, and pain. whenever im nauseas i dont smoke, cause if i do i usually end up having a real crappy high, and a hangover with a whooping headache, sore throat, and extreme lazyness/tiredness.
Okay, you've got to realize that when you smoke it, that's what happens to you. Trying to say that marijuana has no anti-emetic qualities because it doesn't work for you and automatically applying that to everyone else is a big no-no. These people aren't smoking it to get high, they're trying to stop their nausea. In fact, some of the medical marijuana users don't like getting high, especially when they have to use their medicine day after day after day.
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they also perscribe it for relief of pain and whatnot. well when im high, no matter how high i am, i can still feel pain. sometimes the pain is worse when your high, so i dont see how they can make that claim.
You're doing it again. It doesn't work for you, therefore it doesn't for anyone else.

Like all medicines, the pain that it can help with varies with each person. Now I don't know if it's going to completely remove all the pain. But, what it can do is reduce it enough so that the user can go on living their life as normal as possible.
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the only positive "medicinal" purpose i see coming from it is calming of the mind for elders who are stressed or something.
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Are you kidding?!?! There are more benefits than that. It can help with nausea, appetite loss, pain, glaucoma, spasticity, weight loss, arthritis, insomnia, Tourtette's, asthma, and other aliments/conditions.
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*a lot of my information is problebly wrong, considering i did no research prior to this post.
*slaps forehead*

Yes, researching would have definitely been useful.

Now for Chiksic's questions.

What form is marijuana given in to patients

Marinol (dronabinol), which comes in a pill. NIDA is supposed to give "marijuana cigarettes" to certain patients. Medical marijuana patients might also be allowed to grow their own marijuana.

Do the patients have a choice of their method of use?

Yes and no. If it's the pill form, than not much of a choice there. But if its bud from the plant, then yes.

Has anyone ever tried juicing a fresh marijuana plant, and what were the results of drinking the juice?

So then, you put the weed in a machine, and it transforms it into juice? It would be just like eating it raw, which has its problems (e.g. requires more weed). And also the amount of time it takes for the weed to start working.

What about steaming marijuana like you would a veggetable? If you put a cloth over a steamer and put your head in there and breathed in the steam, would you get high, or any medical benefits?

I don't think I've steamed vegetables. I'm just gonna say this sounds similar to a vaporizer. Yes, you can use a vaporizer and get the medical benefits.

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You can also use a vaporizer to get high.
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Do you get stoned from taking Marinol?

Yes, you can.

From the Marinol site.
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The most frequently reported side effects in patients with AIDS during clinical studies involved the central nervous system (CNS). These CNS effects (euphoria, dizziness, or thinking abnormalities, for example) were reported by 33% of patients taking MARINOL.
Do you have to get stoned in order to see the medical benefits?

Depends on the user and what they're smoking for.
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Old 05-04-2003, 10:50 PM   #4
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Cool. Thank you.
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PhreshwaterFunk, had you bothered to research I'd bother to respond.

Chiksic, I use marijuana for spasms and pain. Not long ago the spasms were my main cause of concern and I found that I could smoke a full bowl and get high about 3-4 times a day and this would keep my legs and back from spasming all day. Now, I have more of a problem with chronic pain, so I take 2-3 hits every couple hours and that seems to do the trick. Thing is, now I rarely get high unless I prepare some in food or smoke a couple bowls.
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Old 05-05-2003, 05:25 AM   #6
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Well when I smoke marijuana I can 'forget' about having any pains. A lot of what goes on in your head affects your body... especially when you're high.

For me, I can be skating and roll my ankle, but if I'm high the pain will be gone in about 30 seconds to a minute. I won't even remember that I hurt my ankle either. So now I always skate high and have my ankle wrapped. I don't hurt it anymore, but if I have any falls then they won't phase me much. It's a really cool feeling when you 'hurt' yourself and feel no pain.
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Old 05-14-2003, 05:26 PM   #7
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I smoke marijuana medicinally for two reasons: osteoarthritis in my spine [pain relief] and as mood stabilizer for my mood disorder [mania - in the ICD 10 F31.x], which is the primary reason I use it. I smoke in the evening, before bed, and it assists with regulating my sleep cycle [which decreases the frequency of manic episodes] and in some way helpfully impacts my brain chemistry, decreasing the severity of my episodes. [Very little research has yet been done on the interaction of cannabinoids on the serotonin and dopamine levels in the brain - these, and their maladjustments, seem to be the heart and soul of many mood disorders and delusional disorders].

In Oregon, pain management is on the presumptive list of conditions for which medical marijuana can be approved, and pain management is what the vast majority of medical marijuana program participants in this state are approved for - but it is helpful for a lot of other disorders that have not yet made it on the list.
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Old 05-17-2003, 01:52 AM   #8
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hey guys got a little real-life insight for you....

I've been a full-fledged stoner for about a year and a half now. Last year on March 29th, a drunk driver ran a red light, nailed the car I was in, I went out the window.. spent 6 weeks in the hospital.. had tons of surgery still planned even when I got out..

Basically.. after surgeries/procedures, marijuana helps tons - just not with the actual relief of pain. It's not like take a hit, and pain goes away... that's what vicodin are for But the mental/pscyhological help is extraordinary. When I'm lyin in bed covered in gauze and wires and **** from a surgery... it helps sooo much to just lie in bed, turn on some good tunes and smoke myself into a land farrr far away.

I dunno how this kinda use could ever be worked into the legal arena... all I know is, over the past year I've had to go through a lot of terrible ****, and marijuana has been there for me the whole way thru to ease my mind and lighten my spirits.
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i have a question, if you are prescribed medicinal marijuana... do they supply it to you, or do they give you the prescription so you can buy from regular dealers.
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they also perscribe it for relief of pain and whatnot. well when im high, no matter how high i am, i can still feel pain. sometimes the pain is worse when your high, so i dont see how they can make that claim.


don't know what kind of pain you have had, but for chronic pain, it's a big plus.

there was a recent study done on pain and treatment. the results found that if someone in severe pain was treated "heavily" that the pain was less likely to come back, but if they where undertreated, the pain could last for years. there was no explanation for the statistical result.

chronic pain can be very strange.
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