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Old 10-14-2004, 02:28 AM   #1
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So, are they all the same either in the plant state or smoked state? Or are there chemical changes that take place as the cannabis is burned thus producing other chemicals and/or changing the chemical make-up?

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Old 11-30-2004, 07:39 PM   #2
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I Don't know why I didn't stumble on this sooner. 1982, thats some pretty old data, a year older then I am. I've been doing a little research on plant chemistry. Plant hormones, phytochemicals, terpenes, volitile chemicals, fungus, bacteria... all the things that would make ones eyes glaze over.

*Plant hormones regulate cell growth in the plant
*Phytochemicals create the pigment, and smell, which attributes the resistances in the plant...
*Terpenes and Volitile chemicals- Im wondering if theres a big difference between these two and phytochemicals. They all act as defense mechanisms in plants.

Its all the names and lables that make it so confusing. The purpose of these chemicals is to ultimately ensure the survival of the plant. Plants use chemistry to form relationships with other organisms in nature. In the rainforest every tree has its own strain of fungus, which helps it collect and bring nutrients. Each tree had to forge the relationship by using their chemistry, enzymes in their roots, to change the genetic structure of the
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Are your eyes glazed over yet?
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Stephanie,
Burning the plant material will undoubtedly cause a chemical change. The very action of burning is oxidation of the organic plant material by oxygen. Fortunately, complete combustion does not occur (if it did, all we'd be left with is water and carbon dioxide).
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So, are they all the same either in the plant state or smoked state? Or are there chemical changes that take place as the cannabis is burned thus producing other chemicals and/or changing the chemical make-up?

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Theres some evidence that smoke from certain burning plants drives away pests and makes them more pest resistant. The native americans have been known to burn plants like tobacco and other various plants to control pests.
I was listening to a girl at Washington University talk about how plants in a burn site (where they burned litter on the forest floor) were more pest resistant.

Heres how they kept the pests out of the Native American cotton.

A plant called Mastrante
He grew it in a row next to his native cotton plants to control a pest called the cotton stainer (Dysdercus peruvianus). The old farmer did this by periodically cutting down several mastrante plants, drying them in the sun and, when the wind was right, igniting them. Pungent smoke from the desiccated shrubs wafted through the cotton fields, instantly driving out the cotton stainers, which ruin cotton by puncturing the seeds, releasing oils that stain the boll.
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Old 02-12-2005, 09:43 PM   #6
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Hi guys -- just stumbled upon this place (what took me so long? ask me after the smoke clears, lol) a few minutes ago; I must say that this is an interesting forum!

As for Chemical reactions from burning et all, yes you do in fact change the chemical make-up of whatever you "burn;" however, when you "burn" a plant, you are not necessarily oxidizing every chemical in the plant, as many different chemicals have different prefered oxidation states (they burn at different temp's)... as to which chemicals in marijuana you are oxidizing and which you are not, I'm not sure. The concept of "complete" or incomplete combustion refers only to the byproducts of things that are oxidized in the first place. That in itself would be a worthy research study... to find which chemicals present in marijuana are left unaffected by the oxidation process of the plant! so, uhhh.... you guys get on that!

And to note, the DEA is not the only fascist group trying to eradicate this positive plant from our sight... the FDA has a string of crimes attached to its moral/ethical record that goes beyond marijuana! Look at hemp -- for Jeebus' sake they outlawed HEMP in the same fell swordstroke! Henry ford had a concept car once that was constructed almost entirely of hemp, including a type of fiber glass (as itwere) that was comparable in strength to the sheetmetal we use today, only many times lighter... and it ran on hemp constituents as well. Did the FDA care? nope -- it's a "drug," in the same family as cannabis, cannabis; and since we classified that as a CLASS1 narcotic, -=away with it=- we say! *vomits spectacularly*

hey, mommabudz (or any of you kindly peepz)-- you seem rife with knowledge about these things, and I have need of an answer... my poor friend actually has mononucleosis, and I'm going to visit him soon. I know in the end it's not healthy for him to smoke while sick, but does anyone know of a violent reaction or serious short-term effect of smoking marijuana while you have mono? From my personal exp., it takes me longer to get better if I smoke when I'm sick at all, but nothing 'bad' has ever happened to me -- then again, I've never had mono before, lol. Your thoughts? help a guy out.
oh, and one last thing.... 1982 was a -great- year, mommabudz!! I still wasn't in school yet and had nothing better to do with my day than dream up the crap I revisit now with the aid of our illustrious plant-friend! ummm, I was my own inti-drug? or something...? hehehe.
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whoa, whoa hold on. it contains steroids? wtf???? dun they shrink ur balls???
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It's not those kinda steroids. Your balls aren't gonna shrink.
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I've heard this both ways. that weed causes sterilty in males and that it doesn't....is there any connection the the steroids and sterilty?
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like that, cannaterpenes. Fits with wannaweed, lol.
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