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deviantchrisfx · 03-15-2005, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CheebaMonkey

It's not those kinda steroids. Your balls aren't gonna shrink.

I've heard this both ways. that weed causes sterilty in males and that it doesn't....is there any connection the the steroids and sterilty?

CheebaMonkey · 03-15-2005, 05:37 PM

They have nothing to do with that. The steroids in cannabis are described as phytosterols which are found in plants you eat, such as wheat. They're not bad for your health, and as that page describes, can actually be beneficial for you:

Prevent heart disease
Ease enlarged prostate
Calm inflammation in rheumatoid arthritis
Control blood sugar in diabetes

Smoking pot does not cause sterility in males. It's just a myth.

yuri420 · 03-25-2005, 08:45 AM

Came across a propaganda website today(http://trushare.com/High%20Time/Brett.htm) and it was all the same old bull until i came across this point....Has anyone ever heard this claim and under what principles, if any, is it founded upon?

Higher Logic · 03-25-2005, 08:58 AM

Cannabis does contain over 400+ chemicals, it's unknown as of now, and smoking obviously releases more chemicals that are associated with burning an organic matter. However, it's just propaganda, especially when you consider something like caffeine or tobacco with are in the 4000+ range in terms of chemical compoents.

Here are the chemical constituents of cannabis:

http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=22545

Phyxius · 03-25-2005, 09:26 AM

And propaganda likes to imply that "chemicals" are always bad. It matters more what kind of chemicals, rather than how many.

yuri420 · 03-25-2005, 02:17 PM

Does anyone know the chemicals released when marijuana is burnt?

Higher Logic · 03-25-2005, 02:40 PM

Here's what happens when you smoke:

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...is_info3.shtml

And here's a breakdown of what is in cannabis:

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1. Cannabinoids: 61 known

a. Cannabigerol (CBG) type: 6 known
b. Cannabichromene (CBC) type: 4 known
c. Cannabidiol (CBD) type: 7 known
d. D-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (D-9-THC) type: 9 known
e. D-8-Tetrahydrocannabinol (A-8-THC) type: 2 known
f. Cannabicyclol (CBL) type: 3 known
g. Cannabielsoin (CBE) type: 3 known
h. Cannabinol (CBN) type: 6 known
i. Cannabinodiol (CBND) type: 2 known
j. Cannabitriol (CBT) type: 6 known
k. Miscellaneous types: 9 known
1. Other cannabinoids: 4 known

2. Nitrogenous compounds: 20 known

3. Amino acids: 18 known

4. Proteins, glycoproteins, and enzymes: 9 known

5. Sugars and related compounds: 34 known

6. Hydrocarbons: 50 known

7. Simple alcohols: 7 known

8. Simple aldehydes: 12 known

9. Simple ketones: 13 known

10. Simple acids: 20 known

11. Fatty acids: 12 known

12. Simple esters and lactones: 13 known

13. Steroids: 11 known

14. Terpenes: 103 known

15. Noncannabinoid phenols: 16 known

16. Flavanoid glycosides: 19 known

17. Vitamins: 1 known

18. Pigments: 2 known

yuri420 · 04-14-2005, 06:32 AM

Are any of those chemicals found in weed before it is burnt recognised as carcinogens?

Higher Logic · 04-14-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by yuri420

Are any of those chemicals found in weed before it is burnt recognised as carcinogens?

Not that I'm aware of, and the same goes for anything you smoke. Smoking releases things like formaldahyde (sp?) and other carcinogens, regardless of what it is.

04-15-2005, 02:03 AM

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Smoking releases things like formaldahyde (sp?) and other carcinogens, regardless of what it is.

Not necessarily -- Only inf the chemical constituents to re-bond into a different molecule exist.

One thing cigarettes have that marijuana does not have -- is heavy metals.

Certain "heavy metals" are added to mass produced cigarettes in order to make them burn continuosly and these are particularly dangerous to the lungs. In addition there are pesticides used on tobacco that are not used on marijuana and finally, in tobacco you are smoking the LEAVES which contain a higher source of the tobacco related carcinogens -- with pot, you smoke the flowers.

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