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Old 07-28-2002, 05:08 PM   #1
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Default Donahue Monday night at 8PM on MSNBC

He will be discussion marijuana and the legalization issue both medicinal and otherwise if anyone is interested.
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Old 07-28-2002, 05:39 PM   #2
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Default im most definitely gonna watch

i always watch those news channels for stuff about marijuana legalization. they have at least one segment a week about it and im most definitely gonna watch monday.
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Old 07-28-2002, 08:19 PM   #4
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Is that at 8pm eastern?

I was watching some show on CNN or something before the presidential election where Phil Donahue was supporting Ralph Nader, and as soon as he brought up Nader's policy on marijuana the station cut away fron the interview and was like "And that was Phil Donahue" and didn't even bother to comment on what he had to say.
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Old 07-30-2002, 04:23 AM   #5
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yeah i saw it today. they had the beloved drug czar barry mcaffrey (spelling?) on. And new mex. gov gary johnson as well as two other guys 1 supporting 3 oz decrim in nevada and another supporting med marijuana in cali. The Czar had the odds of people against him but he was given far more time than any of the other panelists because of this. Overall i dunno if they got much accomplished for ourside or for theirs. I wish that johnson would have made more comparisons between alcohol prohibition and marijuana prohibition although he did mention it i believe. At one point the ex-czar said he's the one who brought up prohibition not me (refering to alcohol prohibition) its clear in his mind there is no marijuana prohibition only the war against drugs. Propaganda word play is fun isn't it kids.
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Old 07-30-2002, 05:30 AM   #6
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I saw it. It was OK, because of the pro-MJ views on national TV, but was too short to address it properly. There is something on tuesday too:

Tomorrow (Tuesday, July 30) at 10:00 p.m. EDT, ABC News will air "War
on Drugs, A War on Ourselves With John Stossel." The prime-time
investigation questions whether the drug war causes more problems than
the drugs themselves.
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o' reilly (referencing the other thread that got closed) is a complete moron. TELL ME WHERE I'M WRONG
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i totaly agree zongmaster bill o'rielly is a F-ing idiot. I saw the interview he had with the president of NORML (i think that was his position) but anyways the guy was very polite and tried to have an adult conversation with o'rielly but o'rielly would just cut in every two seconds and interupt him and in a loud tone just yell things like "Pot can't be legalized because if it was then kids would get a hold of it" Even after all this the guy stayed completly professional and wouldn't sink to mr o'rielly's level but trying argue and act like a child. And getting back to mr o'riellys statement. First of all kids already have easy access to marijuana. Second if marijauna was legalized then at least its sale could be regulated because no drug dealer in the world cares how old their customer is. Third just because kids might get a hold of pot is no reason something shouldn't be legalized. The question isn't will kids get a hold of pot the question is should a responsible adult be able to make their own informed decision as to wheather or not to smoke marijauna. What gives anyone the right to tell me what i can and cannot consume, its not the governments job to play God. Besides alcohol has killed or ruined more lives than marijuana ever could. Yet drinking is an excepted practice in almost every home in America the only reason people thing pot is bad is because the government has told people this ever since its prohabition. Thats why sites like these are so important, this site simply gives the facts and lets you make your own educated decision as to wheather or not you smoke. Sorry about running on like that but when i get upset i seem to go into a rant. Well now i'm gonna go smoke a blunt to calm myself down peace
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Old 07-30-2002, 12:02 PM   #9
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"but o'rielly would just cut in every two seconds and interupt him and in a loud tone"

He does that to EVERYONE.....whether he is for or against their particular cause.


Instead of being encouraged that a guy like O'Reilly, whose opinion a lot of conservatives listen to, is making the concession that he doesn't care if you smoke pot in private, you want to complain about his personality etc. Just ignore the small gain and keep complaining about not getting it all.

Some people are never happy with anything.

"First of all kids already have easy access to marijuana."

Sure they do, but that doesn't change what is being said.

It's a simple, but true fact, that if it's more prevelant, it's more accessible. That's a simple marketing principal.

"Second if marijauna was legalized then at least its sale could be regulated because no drug dealer in the world cares how old their customer is."

What makes you think that legalized sales to adults will put everyone who'd want to sell to children out of business? Many members of this forum would be excluded from legal mj purchase under NORML's plan.

"Third just because kids might get a hold of pot is no reason something shouldn't be legalized."

You obviously didn't listen to what O'Reilly was saying. It wasn't that he was against pot, just asking why there should be ANY more legal intoxicants.

"What gives anyone the right to tell me what i can and cannot consume, its not the governments job to play God."

You did. You elected them. Besides, you're more likley to be charged with possession than consumption.

"Besides alcohol has killed or ruined more lives than marijuana ever could.

That's a completely vacant argument. Alcohol has killed and ruined more lives than pedophilia, so should we legalize that? Please spare me the "one has a victim" speech, and look at the point I'm making.........arguing that this is less evil isn't the way to go.

"Yet drinking is an excepted practice in almost every home in America the only reason people thing pot is bad is because the government has told people this ever since its prohabition."

Two over-generalizations in one sentence............working it hard today.



Back to O'Reilly..............I think you're missing the bigger picture. You have a very conservative, very public guy saying that he has no problems with you smoking in private. Why can't you look at that as a positive sign, instead of whining and *****ing about his demeanor, which is no different than it is with every other guest he has? He was no different with the NORML guy than he is with any guest he has. He gets the bic microphone because it's his show. Donahue has shouted down as many guests on his shows as Bill O'Reilly ever has.
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What makes you think that legalized sales to adults will put everyone who'd want to sell to children out of business? Many members of this forum would be excluded from legal mj purchase under NORML's plan.
I'm 17. I have to go through a huge deal of trouble to get a pack of cigarettes. They're legal. I can get pot from a number of places in a fairly short amount of time. It's illegal.

Same thing with alcohol, it's legal for those folks over 21 and is harder for me at 17 to get than pot which is illegal for all folks.

It would be much harder for kids to get pot if it were legal. Most stores don't want to get fined, so they won't sell to someone underage.
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