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Old 10-30-2005, 10:59 PM   #1
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I saw this last night. I smoked 3 bowls and a joint before it, so I was pretty high, and I expected to **** my pants from fright. In fact, there was only one actual scare in the movie. By scare, I mean a part that made you jump. The only scare was a girl turning really fast, and you think she's going to turn and see something scary, but it turns out to just be an unmenacing black guy.

For 1 hour and 30 minutes, the movie showed you people dying or being tortured in unspeakably gory ways. I won't go into detail because I'm sure fans of these movies enjoy it, but I did not. Violence in movies like Sin City is cool to me, even A History of Violence, despite being not great, had some cool violent parts. But this movie was just over the top.

As far as plot goes, there really wasn't much of one. If you consider the standard Exposition-Rising Action-Climax-Falling Action-Resolution structure of a story, this lacked that. There was an exposition, then there was the climax, and then there was the resolution. Now I understand that a lot of films don't have Falling Action (or denouement, if you want to get french), but there is no excuse for the poor quality of this plot. The jist is that a bunch of people are in a house and have to solve the puzzle to get out, but that's about it. They arrive in the house, they die (not necessarily all, I don't want to give it away), and that's it.

As far as character development goes, there definitely was none. We learn the reason the people have been put in the house, and that's it. A lot of them die too fast to even really know anything about them, and there are enough characters that we don't really have time to know anything about them in an hour and a half. The fact that most of them acted very unrealistically didn't help the film either.

Saw 2 was almost saved by a really sick ending, with multiple plot twists happening in a span of 15 minutes. Not exactly mind blowing, but definitely pretty cool. Unfortunately, it wasn't worth watching an hour and fifteen minutes of veritable trash to see the ending.

Acting was atrocious. I won't even go into detail it was so unspeakably bad.

The dialogue was awful too, even by Hollywood standards.

In conclusion, if you want to see a ton of gore, then you'll like this movie, but you're also a very ****ed up individual if you can enjoy it. I didn't turn away, but I considered it many times. If you want to see a quality film, then look elsewhere.
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:55 AM   #2
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I saw this last night. I smoked 3 bowls and a joint before it, so I was pretty high, and I expected to **** my pants from fright. In fact, there was only one actual scare in the movie. By scare, I mean a part that made you jump. The only scare was a girl turning really fast, and you think she's going to turn and see something scary, but it turns out to just be an unmenacing black guy.

For 1 hour and 30 minutes, the movie showed you people dying or being tortured in unspeakably gory ways. I won't go into detail because I'm sure fans of these movies enjoy it, but I did not. Violence in movies like Sin City is cool to me, even A History of Violence, despite being not great, had some cool violent parts. But this movie was just over the top.

As far as plot goes, there really wasn't much of one. If you consider the standard Exposition-Rising Action-Climax-Falling Action-Resolution structure of a story, this lacked that. There was an exposition, then there was the climax, and then there was the resolution. Now I understand that a lot of films don't have Falling Action (or denouement, if you want to get french), but there is no excuse for the poor quality of this plot. The jist is that a bunch of people are in a house and have to solve the puzzle to get out, but that's about it. They arrive in the house, they die (not necessarily all, I don't want to give it away), and that's it.

As far as character development goes, there definitely was none. We learn the reason the people have been put in the house, and that's it. A lot of them die too fast to even really know anything about them, and there are enough characters that we don't really have time to know anything about them in an hour and a half. The fact that most of them acted very unrealistically didn't help the film either.

Saw 2 was almost saved by a really sick ending, with multiple plot twists happening in a span of 15 minutes. Not exactly mind blowing, but definitely pretty cool. Unfortunately, it wasn't worth watching an hour and fifteen minutes of veritable trash to see the ending.

Acting was atrocious. I won't even go into detail it was so unspeakably bad.

The dialogue was awful too, even by Hollywood standards.

In conclusion, if you want to see a ton of gore, then you'll like this movie, but you're also a very ****ed up individual if you can enjoy it. I didn't turn away, but I considered it many times. If you want to see a quality film, then look elsewhere.

Wow, that pretty much sums of the first "Saw" as well.
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Old 10-31-2005, 04:52 PM   #3
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Saw II was number one in the box office this weekend pulling in roughly 30.5 million dollars, so i guess there are a few ****ed up individuals who enjoy seeing these movies. I haven’t seen Saw II yet, but plan to soon. I don't usually see to many movies in theatres, I wait to rent them on DVD, but I might have to make an exception for this one. Saw was good, and from what I’ve heard Saw II is even better. Granted these movies aren’t for everyone and some may think that some scenes are disturbing to watch, but it is just a movie, and is all in good fun.

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I don't like movies with senseless violence. It's evil, sick and demented. Sometimes I wonder how someone could get paid for thinking up some of the stuff I've seen in horror movies. They should have been thrown in a loony bin.

Give me guts and glory, give me death for honor and pride. I don't want to see torture- I don't want to see people hurt just for the sake of shock-factor.

It's sick and I don't like it. Movies like saw and final destination only show how sick this culture is getting. People actually enjoy watching people die in horribly graphic ways- even being tortured as death 'chases them'... How sick. And boring.
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:00 PM   #5
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The only scare was a girl turning really fast, and you think she's going to turn and see something scary, but it turns out to just be an unmenacing black guy.
Just an unmenacing black guy. LOL That scary eh?
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:33 PM   #6
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I actually liked the movie pretty well. It wasnt anything to speak of greatly but it was a unique film. I did not see the first one but apparently you didnt need to see it to know what was going on. The ending was definately good, but kind of abrupt. I would recommend seeing it if you enjoy gore.

The chicks in it were hot too. Especially the one from the tv show Becker.
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I wanted more gore it wasn't bloody enough for me

only plot in the movie was to show gore... wich I think it did a horrible job of.. I need more!!!!
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I don't like movies with senseless violence. It's evil, sick and demented. Sometimes I wonder how someone could get paid for thinking up some of the stuff I've seen in horror movies. They should have been thrown in a loony bin.

Give me guts and glory, give me death for honor and pride. I don't want to see torture- I don't want to see people hurt just for the sake of shock-factor.

It's sick and I don't like it. Movies like saw and final destination only show how sick this culture is getting. People actually enjoy watching people die in horribly graphic ways- even being tortured as death 'chases them'... How sick. And boring.
I agree with you, but not in those words. I can definitely see why some people would enjoy seeing that much violence. As we get older, the "shock threshhold"--I bet someone else has already coined this paradigm, but just know that I thought of it myself--gets greater and greater. Maybe when we're 6 and see a man shot in the stomach, we'll have nightmares and be incredibly frightened. But the next time you see it, it's a little less shocking and frightening. Years go by and the threshhold keeps increasing as film becomes more and more violent. Today, many people seeking to break that shock threshhold have to turn to movies like Saw 2. I'm all for it, I'm just not at the point where I enjoy something like that.

Anyone who argues that the gore was cool, I'll concede, but I will not concede that the film had any value besides gore and a crazy ending.
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:26 PM   #9
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I thought saw II was really good

but I have never been disturbed by gore... and I mean ever, even when I was I think 8 and saw some car wreck pictures, with people having their heads torn open, and brains smeared around, missing limps, people folded up like pretzels, etc... it has just never phased me for some reason. Everyone else seems to get sick in the stomach or something, but I never do. Am I a psycho or something?
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I don't understand why anyone goes to see these "scary" movies. I have never seen a movie in the horror genre worth the price of admission.
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