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the 70's.

But every dacade has their good and bad music. You cant really choose the best decade, only if you put the cons and pros of every decade and the one that has more pros wins.

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Bailey1138

I think I gotta say the '70s, but there's always good stuff to be found. And don't forget, there was music before 1960, Louis Armstrong anyone? How about Charlie Parker? Thelonius Monk? Bill Monroe? Lester Flatt? Hank Williams, Sr?

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CLUBFOOT

"I think I gotta say the '70s, but there's always good stuff to be found. And don't forget, there was music before 1960, Louis Armstrong anyone? How about Charlie Parker? Thelonius Monk? Bill Monroe? Lester Flatt? Hank Williams, Sr?"

but this discussion is not about music from those decades. its about music from the last three decades.lets stay on topic.



in that case... the 70's.

But every decade has their good and bad music. You cant really choose the best decade, only if you put the cons and pros of every decade and the one that has more pros wins.

the concept of this dicussion is that the decade should be judged by the songs and records that were produced in it. not by who made music in it. i mean you can go" hey. the beatles made an album in the 70s and the who did too so that means the 70s was the best" did the beatles make their best music in the 70s. no. i have heard people downplay a decade because the artists who made records during it were one hit wonders or didnt survive after the decade was over. if i have the single that they made in my collection and its good why should i care if the group is no longer around? some of the industry's best songs were one hit wonders.
this is my argument against the 70s. a lot of the rock of the 70's was draggy and listless. it had no get up and go. the rythm sections had no dynamics.isnt that what rock was about :a rythm section powered with jack rabbit juice? if that was the tradition then the 70's fell down on the job. can anyone deny that? one of the number one culprits was the eagles and groups like that. they may be able to write but that music was draggy. i started to listen to some classic rock around 89 but i cant really listen to it now.
the 50's and 60's are not in this discussion but a good example of what i consider good energy in a rythm section is "the bristol stomp" that song kicks me in the ass! the beat is infectious. i cant say that about 70's rock.

Bailey1138

Sorry about that, I was going off the thread title rather than from your post.

I have to disagree with you on the rhythm sections in the '70s. For a group playing country/rock like the Eagles, then yeah, your point is valid, but how about Funk, which hit it's heyday in the '70s? Stevie Wonder, P. Funk, Marvin Gaye (I'm thinking like, "Let's Get it On" and stuff like that), etc, etc. If that stuff doesn't get you up and moving, I'm sorry I just can't relate. And for more rock stuff, Zeppelin did some killer stuff in the '70s (Led Zeppelin III and on). John Bonham and John Paul Jones are arguably one of the tightest rhythm sections in rock.

Actually, I've always thought discussions like this to be difficult at best and completely pointless at their worst. It's just that Best is a subjective term, with different meanings for everyone. There's no objective way to really look at and rate music.

All that being said, if you put a gun to my head and made me choose one decade, and I could only listen to music made during that decade, it'd be the '70s. The Dead did some of they're best work, so did Hendrix (I don't care what anyone says, I love First Rays of the new rising sun, I honestly get tears in my eyes when I think about what it could've been, what he could've been), funk, like I said earlier, I like some of the eagles stuff (most of it is too poppy though), the Allman Brothers, King Crimson, Miles Davis, the Who (Quadrophenia is a lot better than tommy, IMHO, plus Who's Next), Frank Zappa, Yes, Van Morrison was doing some killer stuff (although my favorite album of his, Astral Weeks is from the '60s), Lou Reed, Iggy and the Stooges, David Bowie, Talking Heads (I know, they did most of they're stuff in the '80s, but '77 is a killer album), Weather Report, Steely Dan, the Pretenders, Pink Floyd, and many others.

I really hate deciding though. Like I said before, there's good music from every decade, every year, every second there's someone out there playing good music. Why the hell am I here instead of out getting my groove on?

CLUBFOOT

the truth is no matter what i say we are all going to like whatever musc we like and nobod acn change that so we might as well try to figure out why are musica tastes are so fixed . i think i have figured out why. because we like certaion elements i music and the musiv category you choose is the category that delivers those elements. if you like distorted guitar then you liste to hard rock or heavy metal. if you like a thumping bassline and prominent kick drum then you listen to funk or dance. if you emotional vocals then you listen to r+b or soul.

but to say its completely objective cant be true. i used to say beauty is in the eye of te beholder but thats not true. i have yet to meet a person who thinks that whoopi goldberg is pretty. everyone i know, black or white , seems to agree that she is ugly. so asthetics are not subjective.

i would like to know , do you or anyone else on this board think that pop music is automatically bad?

anybody willing to admit they like abba?

 

NZ Green

I'd rate the 70s as the best for music - both for the 'classic/art rock' of the first half and the punk/new wave of the latter half. (both are equally important to the history of rock) And don't forget funk and soul - by far the best of that stuff came from the 70s.

The 80s started out OK, but soon became the blandest era of popular music, speaking of commercial rock. The 90s had both the worst and the best - crappy girl/boybands but also raw grunge (the initial stuff, not the later imitators) and creative pop/rock from England and Wales.

CLUBFOOT

" The 80s started out OK, but soon became the blandest era of popular music, speaking of commercial rock. "

thats true for american music but the question is not which decade sustained its trend of good pop/rock for the longest time . its which decade produced the most good pop/rock songs. for example, if you like hendrix and you think h wrote good stuff then his production spannd only abut four years. nirvana was nt around very long. so we are not talking about time span.in five years the beatles poduced a ton of good songs . five years is ot a lot of time.

and also the alt rock scene became more popular in the late 80s. groups like r.e.m. , the sundays( who i think the cranberries and sixpence none the richer are imitating), sonic youth, the pixies and several other alt rock groups can be named. i dont think they were bland.

schwadood

I don't think pop music is necesarilly bad. If a lot of people like it, that dosen't necesarilly mean its bad. But if it is written so a lot of people will like, then it is bad. At least it is in just about every case I can think of (think Backstreet Boys, Britney, Ricky Martin, etc.). The music tends to sound cold and sterile.

Another thing, I think that for some people it is one particular aspect of the music, but for others it is different. I can groove just as hard on phat and phunky bassline as I can on some kickass fiddle playing. Or a jawdropping guitar solo. Or a far out spacey jam. Its all the same for me.

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DoritosMan

after all music is music....

CLUBFOOT

somebody said that other than devo they didnt like the 80s. ive ben looking for my list of songs and i finally found it. to that person who liked devo , what about missing persons? what about berlin?

somebody said dire straits. you know, whenever i hear radio they always play money for nothin or sultans of swing. you know the song i love that they never play? twistin by the pool by dire straits. have you ever heard that one? great song . great video. neither are ever played.

all in all i did not like the 90s but there were a couple of songs i liked from that decade. you suck by the muffs. if i could talk id tell you by the lemonheads. sucked out by superdrag( my favorite)
life in mono by mono. plowed by sponge. a common disaster bythe cowboy junkies. great song.

then there are some from the 80s: true colors by cindy lauper.
ana ang by they might be giants. joey by concrete blonde. where the story ends by the sundays. forever young by alphaville. cry by godley and creme. anybody want to hear something funky get a copy of flamethrower by the j.geils band. i could go on and on. in my top three of the 80s i would have to put be yourself tonight with harmonica solo by stevie wonder. to bailey: i would put the eurythmics up against the doobie bros. any day of the week. breaking us in two by joe jackson. holdin back the years by simply red( praised by james brown). its because of the callibre of songs on this list that nobody can tell me the 80s sucked. nobody.

def leppard was good for about two albums. photogaph is solid pop songwriting. my list is pretty long but i dont think it has any clunkers on it.

i think you can tell rom my list which decade i liked.

hey nobody admitted to being an abba fan. comeon.there has to be at least one abba song you like.

do you know how much money abba was offered to reunite? answer coming in the next post.