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Jimi Hendrix was a musial revolutionary. He changed the way we think about musical instruments, their sounds, and the ability to imitate other sounds. Without Hendrix, what we know as popular music would not be the same.
Jimi Hendrix was an amazing song writer bro!!!! He had no formal musical theory and was able to construct some of the most intricate melodies in his songs. He could match various chords just by their sound~and he made up his own chords!
Jimi's song structure was even revolutionary. He was able to mix basic rock, with jazz, with blues from all periods. With this he was able to play the way he did and write songs that seemed totally random and imporovised, but they were actually thought out.
Jimi in relation to the Beatles~Lennon and McCartney saw his cover of Sgt. P and began modelling thier songs after his style.
Jimi in relation to Clapton~Clapton cried after hearing Hendrix, because he said "I relaized that I wasnt the best."


Tom Morello is awesome, he is like Picasso of guitars.

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CLUBFOOT

songwriting is not separate formmusiianship. its the same. songwriting and performing are two different things.

its not his lyrics that i would rank as "so-so". its the actual musical beds: the instrumental structure. lyrics areno where near as important as the music.


Without Hendrix, what we know as popular music would not be the same.

how much different would it be though. i dont think that much


Jimi Hendrix was an amazing song writer bro!!!! He had no formal musical theory


a lot of people duing tha time had no muical training.pssst . dont tell anybody , but paul mcartney had no musical training .

Jimi's song structure was even revolutionary. He was able to mix basic rock, with jazz, with blues from all periods.

other people were doin or had already done that.motown is a combo of jazz, rock, blues etc.

Jimi in relation to Clapton~Clapton cried after hearing Hendrix, because he said "I relaized that I wasnt the best."

do you know wo jimi thought was the best? terry kath of chicago

schwadood

Songwriting and musicianship are two different things. Nobody would call Kurt Cobain a great guitarist, simply because he wasn't. He could write a song but and he could play how he wanted to, but noone could argue that he was a good musician. There a tons of musicians out there that are incredible but never, or rarely write songs. One of the best guitarists around, Steve Sweeny from ekoostik Hookah, I think he's only co-written one song and he's been in that band for ten years. Jerry Garcia is an example of someone that could do both. Robert Hunter wrote most of his lyrics, but Jerry was able to put a melody to those lyrics and then bring the song in a live context and extend it out along with the rest of the Dead.

Just a little sidenote, I think being a band leader has got to be one of the most difficult things to do. You gotta be able to keep all the musicians in line with you're own vision but still allow them freedom enough to play their best. I think thats why Miles Davis is so good.

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CLUBFOOT

Songwriting and musicianship are two different things. Nobody would call Kurt Cobain a great guitarist, simply because he wasn't. He could write a song but and he could play how he wanted to, but noone could argue that he was a good musician.

i never said that jimi wasnt a good musician. i said you will rank jimi on a list of artist depending on how important songwriting is to you. if its very important to you then you will rank him a little lower on the list because the top spots are reserved for the great songwriters.

schwadood

I wasn't saying that you thought jimi wasn't a good musician. I was just clarifying that songwriting and musicianship are definetly to different things. And in my opinion a good musician is every bit as much an artist as a good songwriter. A musician can explore any number of emotions while a songwriter is limited to his songs. A good musician can also change a song to better match what he is feeling at that particular moment.

 

CLUBFOOT

"I wasn't saying that you thought jimi wasn't a good musician. I was just clarifying that songwriting and musicianship are definetly to different things. "


a musician and a songwriter are not two different things. they are the same thing. you can be called a muscicin because you play an instrument or because you write songs. both are musicians . so if the term wrie quaifies me as a musician, the two terms cant be different.


"And in my opinion a good musician is every bit as much an artist as a good songwriter. "


you wont get any arguments from me on that. but the question is which job is more important when it comes to the history of music? i would say songwriting. songwriters are the ones who change he direction of music the most drastically. if the country moves from classic rock to newwave its because the styles of songwriting are different . not because of the way someone plays a guitar solo on the song.

"A musician can explore any number of emotions while a songwriter is limited to his songs. "

the last part of your message is where you really talk about musicians and songwriters as if they are two diferent things they arent. the songwriter is a musician. where did you get this idea from?

and who says that a songwriter cant explore different moods ? of course they can.

deadhed

CLUBFOOT:
a musician and a songwriter are not two different things.
I think that they can be two very different things. Doc Watson, possibly the best flatpicker to ever live, never wrote a song throughout his whole career. Think of all the bluesmen that have done the same.

Schwa:
And in my opinion a good musician is every bit as much an artist as a good songwriter.
True. When listening to music, though, I find that I listen for certian things for certian artists. I'm not listening to Dylan for his ripping axe solos, nor am I listening to the Allman Brothers for deep lyrics.

Bailey1138

Very excellent point deadhead, I hadn't realized that Doc Watson.

I was mostly referred to improvisation, a very important part of music. Since in order to be improvised you have to make it up on the spot, it's obviously as far away from a pre-written song as you can get.

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schwadood

Clubfoot, i don't know if you'll read this since I saw you posted that you wouldn't be around anymore, but I think you took one of my comments a little bit out context. A person who kust performs songs as they are is limited to the emotive quality of that song. He can have a huge collection of songs with different emotions, but he cannot (read will not) change them at all in performance to better capture his mood at the time.

And deadhead, you have a good point too about listening to different things with differnt artists. Its strange you mentioned dylan since he constantly changes his songs, how they're performed, the melody, the chords, etc. And he's got a smoking band too.

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must of read that in rolling stone or something...