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DonkeyPunch

I don't know, dude, that site doesn't seem all that believable to me. It seems like a whole big bunch of speculation and "may have" and "could have" and not a lot of actual facts on things that happened. This all seems a lot like the stuff Exo believes about Tupac. It flies in the face of accepted stories and contradicts what most people believe, but is pretty fuzzy in its logic and uses a lot of out of context quotes and comments. (To even imply that the man was not suicidal is insane to me. Neither Kurt nor any of his close friends ever denied his suicidal mindset, and even talked about it all the time. I was just reading an old Guitar World with an interview with the man himself, and a large portion of it was about his addictions and suicidal tendencies. All that crap about him being clean on his last tour and how could he kill himself then... BECAUSE THATS WHEN ADDICTS DO KILL THEMSELVES!!! He wasn't happy when he was using, but it serves as a mask for pain. When an addict is clean, he can project almost any image he wants, but is in agony mentally. And also realizes that the rest of his life will only be more of the same hell. Talk to any opiate addict, and they will echo this sentiment.

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Coolguy

Suicide. Case closed.

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EeJay

Please don't turn to this kind of nonsense.

As for the topic at hand, I can't really give an educated opinion as I don't know much about it all. However, something tells me it was suicide, plain and simple. I will have a look at that site later though.

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firsttimer

First off let me start with the Detective Tom Grant. He was Hired by Courtney love to look for Kurt after he left the Rehab clinic. Now Tom Grant believes that Courtney conspired to kill Kurt. And he came out with this 2 weeks after Kurt was found dead. Might I add I have been following this case since...

Ok. Now Tom Grant is not an Idiot. Nor is Courtney's Father. Who believes that Courtney did it also. He has written books regarding this (Courtneys father). He has letters and stuff from her childhood that proves this was a sick demented plan from day one... If not Kurt some other rock star. I could go on. You should watch the Kurt and Courtney love story..

That's why she got with Billy Corget from smashing pumpkins before Kurt Died. And cheated on Kurt with him in England a year before . Ok. Besides that point she has slept with Marilyn Manson Trent Reznor ( who wrote a song about here Star F U CKERs about Mrs. Love) and many other stars. She used him to get famous.

Isn't it funny her album came out the week that Kurt was found dead? Isn't it funny that Kurt wrote most of her music? Isn't it Funny that Kurt Cobain was Left Handed. Yet he shot himself with his Right hand with A Shotgun. If you know anything about a shotgun blast it has a kick. Well the gun was right on top of him. . And only one entrance was blocked. There where 2 entrances to the picture of the Green house if you looked at that site. If I was a loved one and some one told me my wife may have been murdered. I woulldn't let them close the case and lock it. I would have all aspects investegated.... But no intrest from Courtney love.
When Tom Grant went to go look for Kurt Cobain with Kurt's Best Friend. The Best Friend did not show Tom Grant the Green House. The best friend bought Kurt that Shotgun.... His best friend now is a junky. Then there was this guy name El Dutcha. Ok. He was on Jerry Springer . He was a singer in a heavy metal band. He claimed that Courtney Love Offered him "50,000 dollars to whack Kurt Cobain". He admitted it in the documentary THE KURT AND COURTNEY LOVE STORY> He was found dead on some Rail Road Tracks near his house 2 weeks after saying that to the Documentary. He was last seen with a unknown person at a local bar that night....

Now besides all that. The letter he wrote. Was just about leaving the Band. The last 3 lines looked like they where written by someone else. And only the last three lines said anything about good bys to his family or that he was going to kill himself. Kurt has many of guns. Ok. Courtney made this look like Kurt wanted to kill himself.


I wouldn't doubt if she would tell him Just kill yourself. Or if that word was just thrown around. But besides that. There are 2 babysitters that came out who watched there kid. They said the last 2 months of his life. All Courtney would yell about is his WILL... Death WIll. The babysitters ( which they went through 1 a month it seems like) said that Kurt was very sad. And if he wasn't murdered. Then he was forced to kill himself.


Either way. I love you Kurt. A Pisces, with such a stong mind and heart . you took half of my heart when you died.



Edit. There are a few other things I did not mention. But I could go on..

And let me say I come from a long line of Heroin Addicts. It seems to run in the fam. And I have seen how this drug effects people and there lives. There already dead. No need to pull the trigger. But that's off topic..

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KURT COBAIN, TUPAC, AND ELVIS ARE ALIVE.

PAUL MCCARTNEY IS DEAD!!11

 

weedzinger

Yeah, nice post firsttimer. I was really sad after he killed himself, I was 8 at the time I believe. I still wonder what wouldve become of him if he hadnt ugh you know. RIP Kurt Cobain.

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firsttimer

Thanks weedzinger. Yeah so that makes you around 18 19. I grew up in the grunge days. Sonic Youth who I just saw Live in concert last year... In a small bar... Awesome show. But anyways. Kurt's death really effected my life as well of millions of other teenage kids who had ****ed up lives and had no way to regress. Instead of Killing myself as copy cat which lots of kids did. Instead of taking it as a sign that there really isn't anything out there. No matter How far you come and no matter where you are going. Its all just going to be **** on a stick for you. I stood up. And said I'm going to be happy in my life. K im stoned. Ill stop there.


Doesn't mean I don't still feel that way. This thread gets me down.

footix

Reading that site makes me want to kill Courtney Love myself, what a ****ing parasite.

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weedzinger

Im only 17.

EeJay

firsttimer: How do you know his shot himself with his right hand, if there were no finger prints on the gun?