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Old 11-16-2006, 01:11 PM   #1
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MTV provided a vehicle with which labels could further cut and paste and stamp-brand music into corporate logos, cliches and stereotypes.

MTV turned music into naval gruel and felled generations with creative scurvy, and whenever a scene has arisen in protest selling the raw lime and Vitamine C we crave the bastards have squeezed out all the goodness and left us with a synthetic, citrus flavouring not good enough for domestic cleaning products.
Feel free to discuss the Satanic, corporate deity that is MTV in this thread.
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Old 11-16-2006, 02:20 PM   #2
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Hey now....MTV gave us Beavis and Butthead and..........well....um......hmmmm......I guess that was their crowning achievement!
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Hey now....MTV gave us Beavis and Butthead and..........well....um......hmmmm......I guess that was their crowning achievement!
I stopped watching MTV after Beavis and Butthead ended. I have great memories of throwing parties during a B&B Moronathon, those were good times.
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MTV is the great satan.

No other entity is as responsible for all that shit that is considered music. MTV has shifted the focus of music from the talent of the artist to the tits on the 16 year old who is singing.

If it weren't for MTV there would be far less shitty music in the world. There would be no Britney Spears, JA Rule, Creed, Nickleback, Three Doors Down, Jay-Z, Nelly, Green Day, Good Charlotte, Taking Back Sunday, My Chemical Romance, and Puddle of Mudd just to name a few off the top of my head.

The previously mentioned bands have 0 talent and apply a corporate formula to everything they do so that it is as catchy as possible so they make as much money as possible.

They do it for the money and if it weren't for MTV they wouldn't make a single dime and we wouldn't be punished by their existence.

MTV is more responsible for conservative values infiltrating kids' heads than Fox News. MTV teaches us that women are objects and deserve to be treated as such. There isn't a single woman on MTV who is decent human being. They're all sluts who just fuck anything that moves and we're supposed to believe that they're somehow good people. It also teaches us that those who have original thoughts are outsiders and are meant to be treated as such. If you watch MTV before long you'll have the overwhelming urge to just fit in. It makes shitty people look like good role models. Guys who can't speak a complete sentence are viewed as bad asses (Thanks JA Rule and Jay-Z!) while women who show the most skin are viewed as having the most gravity.

If I didn't care so much about music then I wouldn't hate MTV so much. But if it weren't for MTV, rap would still be about something, emo wouldn't exist (reason enough to hate MTV forever), and women who don't have DDs would be able to have a singing career. I'm pretty sure I hate MTV more than I hate Bush or anything else I can think of right now...god damn emo.
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:03 AM   #6
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If it weren't for MTV there would be far less shitty music in the world. There would be no Britney Spears, JA Rule, Creed, Nickleback, Three Doors Down, Jay-Z, Nelly, Green Day, Good Charlotte, Taking Back Sunday, My Chemical Romance, and Puddle of Mudd just to name a few off the top of my head.

The previously mentioned bands have 0 talent and apply a corporate formula to everything they do so that it is as catchy as possible so they make as much money as possible.

While I agree with the basic sentiment of what you are saying, I don't think Jay-Z belongs in your rant. Hova is considered by many TRUE hip-hop fans to be one of tha all time great MC's, along with nas, 'pac, biggie, etc. To act as though he is in the same league as My Chemical Romance or Good Charolette is flat out wrong in my opinion. jay-Z was running the streets, building fans as a relative unknown, before MTV had anything to do with his success. MTV came to HIM because of HIS fame, and not vice versa. Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Eminem, etc have all had videos that played on MTV. Are you actually going to tell me their success had nothing to do with their true talents, and instead were simply part of MTV's master plan to force them down our throats? Sorry buddy, but there isn't an artist I've mentioned thus far that I wasn't a fan of long before they made thier Mtv debut.


And how is "objectifying women" a "conservative value"? I've been lost on that particular connection evver since you mentioned it first in the 9/11 thread refrencing South Park.
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And how is "objectifying women" a "conservative value"? I've been lost on that particular connection evver since you mentioned it first in the 9/11 thread refrencing South Park.
The conservative view on womens' rights is that women should have less control and spend their days pregnant and in the kitchen.

Treating a woman as an object rather than a human being removes her control and her only perceived value to society is her beauty, or more specifically her ability to become pregnant.
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Treating a woman as an object rather than a human being removes her control and her only perceived value to society is her beauty, or more specifically her ability to become pregnant.
Show me a source citing that as a "conservative" value. And, even if thats true, how does showing women becoming rich by being slutty back up that point of view? While i agree the objectification of women on pop culture in general is not a good thing, I don't see the connection of men keeping women down as a conservative view has anything to do with these women who can buy and sell damn near everyone they want. Sex appeal is power, and the music and movie stars of today use it to the fullest. If anything their serx appeal empowers them, getting them rich beyond most people's wildest dreams. its about as far from barefoot and pregnant as you can get. While you may not like the MTV's slut of the week, it certainly isn't reinforcing the conservative viewpoint of women as you seem to think it does. In fact, its a direct contridiction, which leaves me still confused as to why you feel the way you do. Conservatives want less porn, less freedom of speech and expression, etc. The type of people you are talking about use those freedoms of to become rich. yes, 90% of the time theres someone behind the scenes urging that behavior on, but at the end of the day, Britney and Beyonce are cashing checks we'll never see. We're to fault them because they supply soemthing thats obviously in demand? if it wasn't in demand, what would they have to gain by this behavior? The issue isn't NEARLY as simple as you make it out to me. Its not a matter of "yet another thing conservatives are doing to ruin our country". I'm sorry, but when I see Beyonce shaking her ass in the latest video, my first thought isn't "those conservative bastards have done it again!" LOL....remember the "Moral majority" and all that bullshit? You believe such religious crusaders are actually supporting pop culture?
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MTV has sucked for over a decade. There was a time when they actually played music videos throughout the day, now they play one video and shove 23:55 of non music related crap down your throat. Want actual music? Then you have to get mtv2 and that just sucks. I've since moved on to radio, as least the dj's have a keep it real attitude.
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i dont remember the last time i watched anything on mtv (besides maybe a little of the music/video awards). they put so much shit on there now and its all the same. i remember when mtv used to be good. when they would play GOOD music videos, beavis and butthead, sifl & olly, and i dont care what people say...TOM GREEN IS FUNNY!
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