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Old 09-16-2003, 10:58 PM   #21
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Anycolour, your trying to put meaning to the existence of the universe, thinking that there is one. The universe exists whether or not any sentient life form is around to experience its existence or not.
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Old 09-17-2003, 02:06 AM   #22
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Sound waves occur whether or not someone capable of hearing them is present.

And your thoughts of the existence of the universe are...wrong. That sounds ignorant, but your living in the 15th century. Our planet is a grain of sand on a beach. One day, like 99.99% all other species at one point or another, we will die or evolve into something entirely different.
That's like your opinion man.

Besides how do you know that our planet isn't just a piece of dirt under someone's fingernail?
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Old 09-17-2003, 02:53 AM   #23
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Yeah, my opinion. Me and my damn science.
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agreed with Slightly SToopid.
that is not fact. its opinion. you come off very arrogant too. maybe it's just me though.

i know people say its arrogant to think that a universe doesn't exist without an obvserver but i really think the people that say that are trying too hard to assert their views rather than actually thinking and having an open mind.

Gotta keep in mind: in discussions like this nobody really knows the answers, so it's all about sharing your opinions and learning from others. imo

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Old 09-17-2003, 06:59 AM   #25
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Yeah I guess I am being arrogant, but I don't believe in that crud and think its hogwash lol. People...argh cant explain myself, I dont like it when people think that we are in some way significant, that it matters that we are alive, that we survived evolution.
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Old 09-17-2003, 07:56 AM   #26
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Yeah I guess I am being arrogant, but I don't believe in that crud and think its hogwash lol. People...argh cant explain myself, I dont like it when people think that we are in some way significant, that it matters that we are alive, that we survived evolution.
Well maybe you can take comfort in the fact that not everyone is significant & didn't quite survive the evolution process.
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well mojorison, personally i can understand where you're coming from, but did you read my first post? what do you think about a universe that is so super intelligent that it creates and stores realities in accordance with what is going on in subjective beings...well i can already tell you will think it's bunk, but that doesn't matter, what matters is that you understand that in the large scope of things you , me and everyone else reallly don't now sh|t about ourselves and our world, and i think a big step in understanding them more is having that realization itself.

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Old 09-27-2003, 01:33 PM   #28
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If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, did it make a noise?

Just because you cant feel something does not mean that it's not there! Kinda like an old legend i heard about a fearsome horned cat living in some slopes of the himalayas, that whosoever laid their eyes on it would die, but one wonders where the stories come from....
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Old 09-27-2003, 10:16 PM   #29
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Talking I'm STUMPed, but let me go out on a LIMB...

This theory has always killed me...of course the tree still makes a noise...just because nobody's around to hear it doesn't mean it didn't make a noise! If I took a dump in the woods & nobody's around to smell it, does it still smell good?
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Old 09-28-2003, 12:40 AM   #30
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If nobody is there to experience it, the Universe is at the same time all things and nothing.
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