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Merry-juana · 06-17-2008, 01:19 PM

Think about it, people say the sky is blue, so that is blue to you, you have been taught what the names of colors are, so you associate that color with that name. For all we know other people perceave blue as red, or green, or purple, but was toaght that it is called blue.

CRIMSONxSOLDIER · 06-17-2008, 04:05 PM

Colors are defined based on mutual agreement. Lol

Somebody just came up and decided:
"hmmm that thing looks blue. does it look blue to you?"
"yeah ide say thats blue"
"okay then, its blue. go tell everyone that anything that looks like that is blue."

thats my opinion. lol

imFADED · 06-17-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Merry-juana

Think about it, people say the sky is blue, so that is blue to you, you have been taught what the names of colors are, so you associate that color with that name. For all we know other people perceave blue as red, or green, or purple, but was toaght that it is called blue.

I have thought about this actually which is prettry weird. I definately see what you mean though. Like, what if when you were born the color blue was taught that it is called red. Than is it really blue? I suppose the color is whatever your percieve it to be or what you have been taught.

macphearsome · 06-18-2008, 02:56 AM

This is an interesting discussion. Personally, I think that the fact that there is no way to prove that we see the same colours differently makes it a completely irrelevant possibility. If I have the same emotional response to the colour of the sky as you do, then really, what's the difference? It's a bit crazy to think about somebody who sees totally fucked up colours instead of normal colours, but obviously these people would think it's quite normal, so... I guess in the end it's just a crazy thought that goes nowhere.

Now here's an interesting and (slight) change of topic! Humans are trichromats, which means that we see colour as a combination of three colours (in our case; red, green and blue). Some animals see four different colours. I was reading on wikipedia that there is a possibility that some humans could be natural tetrachromats (four colours), but the evidence seems inconclusive.

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Humans and closely related primates normally have three types of cone cells and are therefore trichromats (animals with three different cones). However, at low light intensities the rod cells may contribute to color vision, giving a small region of tetrachromacy in the color space. It has been suggested that women who are carriers for variant cone pigments might be born as full tetrachromats, having four different simultaneously functioning kinds of cones to pick up different colors.[2] One study suggested that 2–3% of the world's women might have the kind of fourth cone that lies between the standard red and green cones, giving, theoretically, a significant increase in color differentiation.[3] However, another study suggests that as many as 50% of women and 8% of men may have four photopigments.[2]

Further studies will need to be conducted to verify tetrachromacy in humans. Two possible tetrachromats have been identified: "Mrs. M," an English social worker, was located in a study conducted in 1993,[4] and a Dr. Susan Hogan, a physician, also in England.[3] Variation in cone pigment genes is widespread in most human populations, but the most prevalent and pronounced tetrachromacy would derive from female carriers of major red-green pigment anomalies, usually classed as forms of "color blindness" (protanomaly or deuteranomaly). The biological basis for this phenomenon is X-inactivation.

Tetrachromacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**Dark** · 06-18-2008, 03:05 AM

If I could only tell you how many times I've had the same thought.....from a very young age even...

But there is a very, very slim possibility that it is a possibility.
I used to also wonder, "What if I have some disease that makes me hear only what I want to hear, and other people are saying completely different things than what I really think they are saying?"

The thoughts kind of passed but still from time to time it's nice to ponder.

J-Yo · 06-18-2008, 07:22 PM

This sounds like a discussion that i had with a friend one time, the base of it is, what if what i think i'm typing rite now actually reads as something completely different, same thing applies to the colors. one way this could exist is if everyone inhabited their own reality, making everything in your reality something completely different in some one else's reality. confusing isn't it? I think so, I got confused typing it. Its really weird that i know this stuff... I'm only 13... I surprised myself.

SlimJim · 06-19-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Asschafing

Alright so me and my friend were mega-baked a couple of nights ago. She then began lecturing me on colors. What if one person's green was another person's black or maybe even some color that you've never seen before. There really is no way to describe a color, so how do we know that we all see the same stuff?

I think about this theory white a bit. I'm glad someone else is too. less lonely

conspiracy man · 06-25-2008, 12:53 AM

i believe that color = color. Say you were taught that the color of this text is black, right? well what about someone that was taught it is negro(black in spanish) well the color is the same but are called two different names. so Black = Black and Negro = Black. My opinion is we all see color as the same no matter what were are taught except for in the case of colorblindness.

Acidrain09 · 07-08-2008, 04:46 AM

I’ve had this exact same thought for a couple of years now. We can only prove what is known to us. On a slightly more sinister note, I also used to think (for a very brief time) that I had gone crazy, and the real me is actually sitting in a mental institution, and that I am living in the imagination of the him (myself). I thought that nothing was real, and everything was the fabrication of my own mind. That thought occasionally comes back, but I don't believe it anymore.

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J-Yo New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 31 Grams: 810.10 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	This sounds like a discussion that i had with a friend one time, the base of it is, what if what i think i'm typing rite now actually reads as something completely different, same thing applies to the colors. one way this could exist is if everyone inhabited their own reality, making everything in your reality something completely different in some one else's reality. confusing isn't it? I think so, I got confused typing it. Its really weird that i know this stuff... I'm only 13... I surprised myself.

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conspiracy man New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 67 Grams: 1,389.00 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	i believe that color = color. Say you were taught that the color of this text is black, right? well what about someone that was taught it is negro(black in spanish) well the color is the same but are called two different names. so Black = Black and Negro = Black. My opinion is we all see color as the same no matter what were are taught except for in the case of colorblindness.

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