Other senses... - Page 2

IAmTheWalrus212 · 10-05-2003, 04:05 PM

High- I've also given that thought. We do not know what nothing sounds like, feels like, tastes like, looks like, or smells like. So what do those people experience? It's crazy.

Almost Bliss · 10-05-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by TurbulentHigh
Have you ever wondered what blind people see? They don't see anything, no colors, no blacks, no whites. There isen't even light, if you can comprehend that. Imagine not being able to see even darkness. So I guess you could say they see nothingness.

DUDE im telling that to people all the time and they never are able to comprehend what im talking about, and they just say "no they see black, dumbass." Woot im not just a pipe dreaming stoner.

The Mighty Quin · 10-05-2003, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by TurbulentHigh
Have you ever wondered what blind people see? They don't see anything, no colors, no blacks, no whites. There isen't even light, if you can comprehend that. Imagine not being able to see even darkness. So I guess you could say they see nothingness.

man, I posed that question to a bunch of people who don't smoke weed, and they were like "well, if you are blind you see dark and light"
i was like, i know that but if you were born blind! and they said the same thing

So i was like what if you have no eyes?
They said you see blackness , but i was like no you wouldn't you would not know what that is and they were like well you just woulnd't see anything. I said what is that though?
THey didn't know, but like all poeple who want to know it all, they just made stuff up to sound right. I think you see what your mind see's, like a dream all the time. That would be cool.

thegoat · 10-06-2003, 08:26 PM

yeah i guess i never thought about that...their would be "nothing" to "see" in the first place. For in a dark room or with eyes closed a seeing person expierences an absence of sight...while a blind person has no comprehension of this absence except in comparison to people who can see...probably why they can hear so much better and such...instead of that absence theirs an extension in the fields of perception they do have...plus i bet most blind people are alot nicer than most people...i mean come on when your blind you must feel more humble...anyway...interesting thoughts...

Stephanie S. · 10-07-2003, 02:06 AM

mesmerizing. Thank You!

peace

suede · 10-07-2003, 04:07 AM

and for the record boys and girls,the optic nerves are not the only nerves that send images to the brain.Just as you can see an object by feeling it,the blind can conjure images of colors with remarkable success. The student and the teacher make the difference in any degree of learning.(J.M.H.O.) 1256 b.s.

zoltron · 10-07-2003, 04:31 AM

I always thought (no pun intended) that we used only 10% of our brain also, Sigourney, until I just read that...interesting stuff!
And I never really gave much thought to what blind people saw or didn't...that is amazing thinking about what blind people actually experience...I'll tell you 1 thing, though, I'd much rather be born blind than to have gone blind...that way you don't realize what you're missing.

P.S. That makes twice, Cheeb!

AAAARRRRRRGGGG...blew it

EeJay · 10-07-2003, 01:51 PM

Awesome post, jvthc!

There was a similar thread to this at Bluelight a few months ago and I thought i'd paste a couple of posts as I find them extremely interesting.

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Well Sonic Reality, I think I may can give you some information.... as you see I am deaf, yep I am profoundly deaf, been like that since I was born, I cannot hear a damned thing, all my ear's nerves are completely stuffed. I use hearing aids and lip reading as my way of communication. When I wear hearing aids, I can hear everything, but I cannot "recognise" the noises, I hear the noises but no idea what they saying or what it is, I can hear music but I have no idea of the lyrics or whatever, but I can still "hear" the tones of highs and lows, etc etc

Yes, you are right Sonic about how deaf or blind people could have a sensory overload because my other senses is more refined/higher/more senstive to make up for my hearing loss, seems I am pretty senstive when it comes to taste, smell and feel because sometimes I can feel, taste and smell things what others don't even notice.

And the weird thing is I have noiticed is when I compare mine and my hearing friend's dreams while we are sleeping, is that my dreams are very highly visual and extremely colourful for moods, if its bright and colourful, its a happy or interesting dream, its a dark, moody and gloomy colours its a bad/moody/unhappy/some kind of a "warning" type of dream, its so trippy sometimes, almost very psychedelic.

The interesting thing is I have never "hear or heard" anything in my dreams, its very silent, like the silent movies from the 30's and 40's but with more colours added, and when I "listen" people/characters in my dreams, it seems they very "expressive" using a lot of facial expressions as a way of telling me the "tone". And I lip-read in my dreams too!

So I am guessing that with the blind if they were born blind, they don't see things in their dreams, its more of sensory dream with mostly of sounds and feelings and maybe taste and smell?

Sometimes I find when I use acid or magic shrooms I do "image" the "noises" but I have no idea if they are real or not, but then one day I decided to try some tripping without my hearing aids, and funny.... I wasn't hearing anything at all......its all in the head.

So I am guessing if it was a blind person that was born blind that they dont see anything, its also more of a sensory trip with mostly of sounds and feelings and maybe taste and smell?

Sometimes I find when I am on ecstasy, seems my senses is very over-senstive and heightened, and it just feels so amazing, maybe it's because (I may be wrong here but... ) most hearing mates of mine who are on ecstasy are more of listening to music, saying how music sounds wicked, etc etc while they are peaking, but I just focus more on my feelings of the MDMA effects, maybe makes the MDMA effects way more enjoyable? I have no idea.

All I can say that I find tripping on mescaline, magic mushrooms and acid for me as a deaf person, is a very highly enjoyable experience for me because I am very highly visual person.

And also I am happy being deaf, I have no desire to be "hearing person", even there is technologly to help me "hear" with these cochlear implants but I am just not interested..... I love my little silent world, its so handy, all I have to do is take my hearing aids off.... then it's silent and always have slept well, and sometimes its nice to have a joint on a relaxing sunny afternoon.... just sit back and relax.....without any noises or hassles that could bother my relaxing session.....just total peace *sigh*.

Drug experiences is very interesting in my opinion while doing them in silent, but I have no idea, I cannot compare and I have no desire to find out.

Hope I have helped a bit Sonic, any further questions, feel free to ask.

Cheers

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Hey Urbandog, that was really insightful and very kind of you to share. I had a very good friend of mine at high-school who was profoundly deaf, but this only came on in his mid-teens so he had previously been able to hear. When we took MDMA together a year or so ago and we were out clubbing at The Shift in Sydney, he signed so fast I could barely read what the hell he was saying - but the general drift was that he's never experienced music like that before. Now he's a pretty smart guy - but I couldn't understand what the hell he meant! I tried to slow him down (he likes his pills! ) and he expressed that although he can't physically hear the music - he was listening to it through us and our expressions and "energy" to use his word. Pretty funky cos he kept right in time with our music and danced us all to shame!!

TurbulentHigh · 10-11-2003, 02:24 AM

It is so amusing how individuals will just assume that blind people just see blackness all the time. If that were true they could just as easily see a white light all the time. Because even though darkness is absence of light, you still need to have vision in order to see it.

- TurbulentHigh

EDIT: Although if you think about it, you can easily take a question like that for granted. Because when you close your eyes you see darkness. The human brain likes to take short cuts to simplify answers.

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Originally posted by The Mighty Quin
man, I posed that question to a bunch of people who don't smoke weed, and they were like "well, if you are blind you see dark and light"
i was like, i know that but if you were born blind! and they said the same thing

So i was like what if you have no eyes?
They said you see blackness , but i was like no you wouldn't you would not know what that is and they were like well you just woulnd't see anything. I said what is that though?
THey didn't know, but like all poeple who want to know it all, they just made stuff up to sound right. I think you see what your mind see's, like a dream all the time. That would be cool.

GeeMcD · 10-17-2003, 01:14 AM

My eyesight sucks. My hearing also sucks. but my vacuum cleaner......... mmm.

10-05-2003, 04:05 PM	#1
IAmTheWalrus212 Jr. Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 918 Grams: 2,547.00 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	High- I've also given that thought. We do not know what nothing sounds like, feels like, tastes like, looks like, or smells like. So what do those people experience? It's crazy. __________________ I had a mystical spiritual cosmic technological wiring electricity neon Venture into the Known But As Yet Undiscovered...

10-06-2003, 08:26 PM	#4
thegoat Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 391 Grams: 4,379.01 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	yeah i guess i never thought about that...their would be "nothing" to "see" in the first place. For in a dark room or with eyes closed a seeing person expierences an absence of sight...while a blind person has no comprehension of this absence except in comparison to people who can see...probably why they can hear so much better and such...instead of that absence theirs an extension in the fields of perception they do have...plus i bet most blind people are alot nicer than most people...i mean come on when your blind you must feel more humble...anyway...interesting thoughts... __________________ There should be a quote here, but i probably got high and forgot to make one, or can't remember what i wanted to say...or did I?

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Stephanie S. Original Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,433 Grams: 5,671.60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	jvthc mesmerizing. Thank You! peace __________________ "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." —George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005 (Listen to audio)

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suede Activist Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 1,005 Grams: 5,444.60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I'll 2nd. that and for the record boys and girls,the optic nerves are not the only nerves that send images to the brain.Just as you can see an object by feeling it,the blind can conjure images of colors with remarkable success. The student and the teacher make the difference in any degree of learning.(J.M.H.O.) 1256 b.s. __________________ End World Hunger

10-07-2003, 04:31 AM	#7
zoltron Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,344 Grams: 36.30 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I use at least 10% I always thought (no pun intended) that we used only 10% of our brain also, Sigourney, until I just read that...interesting stuff! And I never really gave much thought to what blind people saw or didn't...that is amazing thinking about what blind people actually experience...I'll tell you 1 thing, though, I'd much rather be born blind than to have gone blind...that way you don't realize what you're missing. P.S. That makes twice, Cheeb! AAAARRRRRRGGGG...blew it

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