mjg006

Me and my friend were blazed one nite and I decided to enlighten him on my theory of how everything we think we know, could in actuallity, be completely wrong.

E GuN 61: yo u wanna hear my theory that theres are very high chance hat aliens have visited earth
SWaficle9er: yeah i already believe that strongly
SWaficle9er: go ahead
E GuN 61: oh im just gonna make a bunch of proogs
E GuN 61: proofs
SWaficle9er: ok
SWaficle9er: u ever listen to james taylor?
E GuN 61: yeah i have
E GuN 61: hold on
SWafficle9er: ok
E GuN 61: can u not type till i finish my theory?
SWaficle9er: ok hahahahaha
E GuN 61: the estimated number of planets in this universe is estimated to be greater that all the grains of sand in the sahara desert
E GuN 61: billions upon billions
SWafficle9er: i know i heard that somewhere
E GuN 61: our galaxy has nine planets, one being inhabitable(earth) and one thought once to be inhabitable(mars)
E GuN 61: thats 2/9 planets are inhabitable in a ratio
E GuN 61: therefore millions of planets in this universe must be inhabitable
SWaficle9er: ur so right
SWaficle9er: did u think that up
E GuN 61: scientists argue that the earth is rather young
SWaficle9er: really
E GuN 61: im not finished
SWaficle9er: ok sorry
SWaficle9er: i am sooo high holey ****
E GuN 61: yes, the fact that human life has only existed for a 10 or so thousand years
E GuN 61: it be logical to assume that some planets that have life , that are thousands of years older, would also have a sort of advanced being
E GuN 61: due to natural selection and competition between species
SWaficle9er: wow
E GuN 61: think about how far we've come in 2000 years
SWaficle9er: hfn
SWaficle9er: ksNH
SWaficle9er: sjhit
E GuN 61: from ridin horses
SWaficle9er: to spaceships
E GuN 61: to space flight and digital computer satelites
SWaficle9er: dam
SWaficle9er: ur so ruight
E GuN 61: think about how far other species must have come
SWaficle9er: holy ****
SWaficle9er: its sacary
E GuN 61: and think at all the avandced aliens must exist
E GuN 61: i bet right now there are interplanet wars between different species occuring right now somewhere in the universe
E GuN 61: being infantly smarter than humans
SWaficle9er: did u read that clip that had proof that aliens were living along with humans at this montauk project
E GuN 61: infact we could be a biproduct of an alien species
E GuN 61: inserted on earth for one purpose
SWaficle9er: omg
E GuN 61: to gain territory and spread
SWaficle9er: but y
E GuN 61: we could be indirectly workin for an alien speices
E GuN 61: that have some advanced form of telekinenis
E GuN 61: and controll all the instinct of man
E GuN 61: to do the dirty work for them
SWaficle9er: holy **** mn
SWaficle9er: where did u read this
E GuN 61: how right could i be
E GuN 61: i made this up
SWaficle9er: no ****in weay no way
SWaficle9er: ur kidding me
E GuN 61: i kid u not
SWaficle9er: holy ****
SWaficle9er: wait what happened with the chronic clouds
E GuN 61: we dont ****in know
E GuN 61: thats all there is to it
SWaficle9er: omg
SWaficle9er: u still blazin
E GuN61: nah im probably gonna start some work
SWaficle9er: **** that we need to discuss this
E GuN 61: and il tell u somethin, if i didnt smoke pot, id never be able to come up with a theory like that
SWaficle9er: and i would never be able to believe it
E GuN 61: we could effectly be livin in a matrix
SWaficle9er: but its true
E GuN 61: created by aliens
SWaficle9er: holy **** man
E GuN 61: all this could be a dream

Rick_Blaine

nice theory. that's a pretty common one amon the conspiracy theorists out there. do some poking around on the net adn you'll find some elgant proofs. also, humans have been around for a helluva lot longer then 10 thousand years. it doesn't change what you'tr trying to say. humans have been evolving for millions of years and homo-sapians (modern man) have existed in the 150-200 thousand year range.

blizzard

wow... thats a really interesting theory, I see what your are saying.

Keep on rocking

WNB

Well...you make several very, very large assumptions. Here they are, and why they are probably wrong.

1) Not all stars have 9 planets. In fact, most have none at all.
2) The vast, vast majority of planets are uninhabitable. Our solar system contains two planets and (I think) a few moons capable of sustaining life. This is the exception, not the rule. Most solar systems have no planets and no moons capable of sustaining life.
3) Not all life is intelligent. If you want to make broad generalizations, how about this one. There are millions of species on Earth, and only one is intelligent. Get the point? While life might exist on many other planets, it is probably microscopic organisms only.
4) You assume that intergallactic space flight is possible. An extremely faulty assumption. Star Wars is not reality. Faster than light travel is impossible, even light speed travel is impossible, and without that, species could not spread, as inhabitable planets are waaaaaaaaaaaaay too far apart to be reached without traveling many, many times the speed of light.
5) You assume that species discover some kind fast space flight before they become extinct. Using your own example against you...where did the martians go? That's right, if there ever were any, they died out long before they gained the ability to even travel to Earth, much less other planets.
6) You assume that species can advance and become more intelligent at a steady rate. This is obviously false, as there has to be a point at which technology cannot advance any further. It would not be unreasonable to assume that at this point, intergalactic space flight would STILL be impossible.
7) Here's the most damning point against you-trillions of stars have already experienced novas, destroying any inhabited planets that might have orbited them. By your own assumptions, some of these planets must have been inhabited by the most intelligent creatures possible just before they were consumed by their stars. If so, why didn't these super intelligent aliens escape destruction, and why haven't we met them?

So why don't you take off your tin foil hat and consider how illogical your arguement is? Please...I'm not arguing that there aren't other planets inhabited by intelligent species, because there obviously are, but they're too far apart for the species to ever interact.

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mjg006

I'm glad you took the time to respond to my post, but I don't think you really got my point. The main point I was trying to make was that we really don't know.
Many of arguments I made, even though some of the facts are wrong, are somewhat hypothetical. There are probably millions of inhabitable planets out there; it took billions of years for the human race to evolve what it is to now. Thousands upon thousands of these planets probably are much older than earth, and have the capability to produce an advanced species. You argue that space travel between planets is not a reality. How do you know what kind of resources are available on these planets? The finding of even one radical resource (such as uraniam on earth) changed our technological limits forever. For all we know, other planets might have some sort of super fuel, that defies everything scientists on earth have proven impossible. Who knows what technology will come to us in a thousand years; let alone what technology has come to an advaned speices older then humans.
There are many theories out there regarding the speed of light and trying to reach it or move faster; none of which have actually been proven that its impossible. We're now beginning to study the effects of wormholes and their amazing possibilities. Advanced space flight might be closer to what we thing. People such as you, who severly question our technological limits, were probably around 200 years ago when the mention of space flight seemed ludicrous. And the fact that an alien species might exist in this universe whose thousands of years older than us is mind-boggling. Alot of the things you argue about could be regarded as broad assumptions also, "While life might exist on many other planets, it is probably microscopic organisms only." If earth is considered young to alot of planets, how do you know its microcscopic organisms only? "inhabitable planets are waaaaaaaaaaaaay too far apart to be reached without traveling many, many times the speed of light." It could be well possible that another speices may have a different way of travelling that we don't know of, ie. wormholes. Supernovas certainly occur often in this universe, but think of how many millions of years it will take for the sun to explode, and how much older earth and its inhabitants will be...
All I'm saying is that we don't know for sure, not you, not me, not scientists. Who knows if we've been visited by aliens before; it could be a gov't coverup that where we will never find the truth. All we can do is let time play out and see where it takes us.

blizzard

I have to say that I am with mjg006 on this one

WNB, I think u need to light up a bowl and relax alittle bit my friend.

Your response to mjg006's theory is pretty redicuous. You've made some pretty big assumptions that I believe to be false such as;

How do you know that they are probably microscopic....lets be reasonable you or I really have no idea, mjg006 is just saying that there is just as much of a possibility that they are intelligent life forms as there is that they are microscopic organisms.

It is pretty arrogant of you to think that we are the most intelligent life form. After all another species could have a different way of traveling, maybe because resources on their planet can support intergallactic travel. There is no way of really knowing and that is all he is trying to say, however the universe is said to be infinitely big and the chances are that it is possible.

You are just making an assumption here budy, come on, you mean to tell me that their has to be a point were technology stops, that is false, and actually totally irrelevant to the conversation. How do we really now that other species dont have the resources and technology to support intergallactic space travel already before they reach your so called "point."

And according to darwins theory of natural selection, species do adapt and gradually grow to adapt to the chnages in their environment, and therefore become more intelligent as time advances.

Next time before you try to disprove someone so quickly maybe you should take some time to think about your argument alittle more.

PhreshwaterPhunk

That's not true. It turns out that dolphins actually outsmart us, and apes almost do... The only reasons we're more advanced than dolphins NOW is because we have thumbs, and have the ability to build weapons and other stuff to put to use, dolphins cannot. Put any little human in the water with a dolphin, and the dolphin would kick the humans ass. It would both outsmart the human and trick it, and it would be stronger and more resistant where thumbs serve no purpose...



mjg006, I agree with you as well, 100%. I loved reading what you just wrote, becuase I was high and understood it all in an instant.

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woshbosh

i was high when i read that too, and i could totally see exactly where you were coming from with that, awesome post

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blizzard

hey phreshwaterphunk,

Those are some interesting facts man

Nice post

LeXtasy420

That's not true. It turns out that dolphins actually outsmart us, and apes almost do... The only reasons we're more advanced than dolphins NOW is because we have thumbs, and have the ability to build weapons and other stuff to put to use, dolphins cannot. Put any little human in the water with a dolphin, and the dolphin would kick the humans ass. It would both outsmart the human and trick it, and it would be stronger and more resistant where thumbs serve no purpose...

This might be a little out of the way but reading this just happend to remind me of something i was reading on about the brain that animals brains evolve to their enviroment, like humans for example our society is based on economic development and prospering in this lifestyle therefore our brains are being worked constantly in math/problem solving and english thinking types of ways.But our brains are also capable of other psyco-active things like moving objects without phsycaly moving them, reading minds that sordof stuff, but see our brains arent developed in that way because thats not the type of society we live in because that part of our brain is pretty much never put in practice, we supposedly use about oh i dont know ive heard different percentage amounts but we use about 10% of our brain so imagine how immature of a species we actually are. So imagine now, a species with brains like ours but using them to their near maximum capability, what would they be like? What kind of things could they do?

Just to share a little U.F.O. experience, one night about a month before school ended here like early May, me and a friend were cruising down the road back from another friends house and well as we were sitting at a stoplight I was looking up at the sky and noticed a blue/greenish looking light in the sky just sitting there, it was a little bigger than the size of the stars and as i was staring at it for about 10 seconds wondering what it was, it SHOT OFF, and i mean it f***ing flew, it went from just sitting still to moving incredibly fast, it flew across in a straight line for about 2 seconds and then dissapeared. Theres noway it was a jet of anytype moved way faster than a jet and a jet cant sit still and just zoom off as fast this thing did, and also considering the whole object was a bluish greenish light, I looked at my friend and my friend looked back at me and asked if i had just saw that in the sky i was like "Yea!".