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Last night, my roommates and I had a small party (meaning the same amount of booze that would be at a big party, but with less people to consume it). Four of the people at the party decided to smoke some weed, so I rolled a really nice, big cone and we went and smoked it. After we came inside, a couple of us sat on my futon, listened to some Shpongle (psybient music...check it out) and blew up the visualizer to cover my entire screen (I use winamp...better visualizers than WMP). While we were listening to music and watching the visualizer, I wrote down some potentially thought-provoking statements that came to my head (inspired by the music and visuals). Here they are:

-Everything that is created must eventually be destroyed

-The closer you get, the further away you realize you actually are

-We see everything through a lens, and that lens distorts everything we see

-Things always seem to change right after we figure them out

-Things constantly grow and change, and as they grow, they become more intricate, and as these intricacies grow, they become more intricate, and so on and so forth.

-The world put in front of us is obscured by everything we've put in front of ourselves.

-Everything that exists is just a shadow of what once was.

-Everything that is separate was once connected.

-The harder we try to push something away, the harder it is to let go of it.

-Time is perception. Things with a lower perception see time as faster, and those with a higher perception see time as slower.

I'm not sure what I want to accomplish with this thread...I suppose I just want to give people here some things to think about. I'd like to hear your responses, if you have any.

EDIT: Found some more

BlazeInTheMazeOfLife

Hmm, I'll have to come back to this thread after wake and bake to add some. The one about perception and time seems right.

Lion of Judah

Ive always found that this exchange in 'The Matrix' is fairly thought provoking:

Oracle: I'd ask you to sit down, but, you're not going to anyway. And don't worry about the vase.
Neo: What vase?
[Neo turns to look for a vase, and as he does, he knocks over a vase of flowers, which shatters on the floor]
Oracle: That vase.
Neo: I'm sorry...
Oracle: I said don't worry about it. I'll get one of my kids to fix it.
Neo: How did you know?
Oracle: Ohh, what's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything?


I bring it down to that old proverb we've all heard at one point or another: What you don't know can't hurt you.

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Desperado

So A dude with a gun going to shoot you in the leg, but you do not know he is there and going to shoot you, won't hurt?

I don't know about that proverb man... I think mine would be

"There are errors in everythimg in this universe"

youareloveninja

things are not words, but words could be anything

people can say what they want.. it could be all total fabrication or total truth, it will sound the same I think, the question is why do they say it at all? Once its said, it certainly has been said, and that is a fact, apparently.

I think the truly 'important' things we have to find on our own because everyone else who has realized them is immediately swept away in their implications so verbal communication is left behind.

like if everything is one.. why you state that 'everything is one'? Nobody needs to hear that, its just the way it is, on the other hand, everything is one.. so how could you not state it?

I guess its a lot like the matrix exchange... gets to the point where no one knows what they are talking about i think, but thats so exciting

/love Marijuana

A few of these are pretty damned mind bending. Though a lot of them are things such as "The tighter we hold onto something, the slicker it becomes" typwe stuff.

But I shall reply to them all.

In our current world I do not think there is anything that is indestructible. So basic science would support this statement.

That is a matter of single persons opinion. I myself think that the closer I get the closer I realize I am. But maybe that's because I'm an optimistic person.

You are exactly right. There is a lens in the eye.



This kind of goes along with Murphy's Law, ya know, the whole "If anything can go wrong.." thing. Which I always thought that the people who came up with that law just had bad luck....


Well this one could go on forever. "Then these intricacies grow, then the intricacies of those grow, then the intricacies of that grow, then the intricacies of that...."

Or it could be said that for living beings it ends with death. And with inanimate objects. They will stop growing and becoming more intricate once all the humans stop growing.

Well assuming the only things we can put in front of ourselves are things we find in the world, then technically no matter what we put in front of us..it is still the world.

So how does a shadow produce a shadow?

As in EVERYTHING was connected to EVERYTHING else. What about the stuff that wasn't around in the same century as the one before it. Or is this a world creation theory in the sense that everything stemmed from one thing..whatever it was. Hmmm....

Well there are two general situations in which you push something away. When you don't want something...and when you do want something but its bad for you. And I think that most people have no problem letting go of something they don't want....and for the other one..well..duh.

So then if it is all perception..then I assume that everything is actually going at the same speed. Which would mean that I could possible only be seeing what my 19 year old self sees at 4:28 in the morning on July 10th of 2009, when in reality I am sitting at some nursing home in Florida with a big bag of Kush beside me.


Whoa...lol.

MrIMStoned

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

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yoman3

yes it does. Just because no one is around to hear it doesn't mean it doesn't make a sound.


Wanna test it out? Line a woods area with dozens of tape recorders and turn them all on. One day a tree is gunna fall, and then you'll all see that it in fact DOES make a sound.

teyber

if a man says something out in the middle of the ocean, where no woman is near, is he still wrong?

nikk

No, if no human is around to perceive the vibrations made by the tree, then no 'sound' is made.

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