strutinshizz

"To control you must create diferences"

I was in a boring language lesson and my mind started drifting toward that song from John Lennon - Imagine, and what I realised that the source of conflicts it all comes down to diferences.. Every source of conflict is caused by our diferences even jealosy (not sure how you write that) mental, fisical diferences is what creates a conflict and governments use that to create hate towards a certain country or race that way controlling us, or basing themselves on a hate that already exists...

I dont know if explained this properly because of my lack of vocabulary...

sorry but i dont know what to put on the title.. any ideas ill change it

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To control you must create diferences - me

giftedchild00

fuck dude. your right. it took me a while to let that sink in though!

Philosophy

It looks like that qoute can be a great topic...

"To control you must create diferences"

But thats the way society has been setup... for there to be winners, and losers... I'm not saying this is the way it should be though.

People feel that because someone else doesn't believe what they do, it's wrong. This causes the conflict, and this something I never understood. When one person doesn't undertand the other, why should conflict be created between them? I guess people never take the time to put theirselves in other peoples shoes, and try to undertand them, instead of putting their "fist" up.

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jerzysanchez

i've know this for a while, i can't say it's the government that tries to create conflict amongst people.

it's just how we've come to be after however long a period of time. it's evolution, and survival of the fittest at it's best. moreover, it's money. i can't completely say money is the root of all evil, though i do somewhat believe that. asher roth says "self centered people are the root of all evil". that i believe with all my heart. i also believe love conquers all. maybe i'm just a hippie, but when you really think about it. and i mean really think about it all you do really need is love.

i think about wars, and all the things wrong with society and it sickens me greatly. even my own stereotypes and prejudices. i can't help that i've grown up in a world like this. it's just how we are, and i try to keep my mind as open and be as nice a person as i possibly can. trust me, we'll have our day... someday... marijuana for peace

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Philosophy

I loved your whole post except a few parts, but I'll talk about that. And whats wrong with being a hippie, they created a society that was a "anti-society" to America... Also Great qoute from asher roth

like you said money creates conflicts, and differences, but who creates money? THE GOV'T... Well actually the FED reserve... I do agree with you about: in THIS society it's about the "survial of the fitess", but should it really be this way? Does there really have to be winners and losers? Not at all! Back in the ancient times when tribes left their homes to find better resources, and then developed hatred towards others because they didn't have natural resources... (!IMPREALISM!) Do we really have to fight for any resources today? Don't you think America has enough food alone to cure the world from stravation? which still isn't right... (two wrongs never make a right) We have developed enough intellectually, and technologically where to say that survival of the fitess is the reason why there is so much hatered in this world.

"ONE LOVE"- Bob Marley

jerzysanchez

yes, the federal reserve does make the money. but i mean, who created money in the first place and i'm talking in the "beginning of time" sense... like currency? what made of them think of such a thing? i'm sure it sounded like a good idea at the time, doing things that would help prove their worth and what not. i'm sure they would've never guessed the corruption it has caused.

as for the survival of the fittest, of course it shouldn't be that way. i never said it was the reason for the hatred in the world, i apologize if it sounded like that. i guess what i meant was that the people that have obtained the most power and money in this world are those who have gone out of their way to get it, whether their methods are honorable or not.

Philosophy

You don't have to apologize we're on the same page. And the qoute from asher roth said it best...."self centered people are the root of all evil"

But monetary systems were created to eliminate the barter system, and forgery. Also by creating a monetary system the FED or who ever can control the value of the currency... Which goes back to what your were saying they did it for themselves.

We're getting off topic, but a good movie to watch on this is called Zeitgeist Addendum loook it up it's free on the web,I would be surprised if you hadn't already seen it.

Yana Usdi

The idea you were looking for sounds a lot like the old idea of divide and conquer. For the most part you all are on the right track I'd think but the problem isn't survival of the fittest, it's our tribal instinct. Fittest doesn't mean biggest or meanest, it means best able to survive, most fit for when and where it is. The reason we evolved into family and tribal units was because to a point cooperation made us more fit than aggression did.

But, we just needed our local group for that so the other side of that was tribal then eventually national competition. We've talked about this in other threads but we see the same type of thing in animals, especially ones such as chimps. Money is an aspect but only because it now represents what we need to survive, with money we can get the rest. In the past we had the same fights over the resources that money now represents. We can (and have) use money, better cropland, race, religion, or anything else to draw a difference between us and them and we see the same thing today in US politics. The more extreme dems and repubs hardly grant each other the same status as humans anymore, the more "other" we can make them the easier it is to hate them. In local or international conflicts it works about the same, concentrate on and expand the differences, and it isn't just government that does it. It's anyone who wants to manipulate us.

Best way to fight it seems to be to just try to find common ground, where they want to emphasize the differences there has to be enough of us on the other side of the issue emphasizing where we have common interests and needs, how we can do better together rather than at conflict.

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Philosophy

Perfectly explained now time to roll out of bed and |

But seriously, this has happened through out history, look at the movement the hippies had, and the movement for weed today... back in their times, legal medical mj never existed, unless you had a really good case saying you where self-medicated.

strutinshizz

True the government doesnt just create diferences, they take the hatred or misunderstanding about something thats already there and they cultivate to fit theyre goals, like the war in iraque right now most americans fear them and feel a need to go and fight them now because of terrorism while the government is there for the oil too they´re using the fact that americans think there is a threat over there, which was created in the first place by them, not that terrorism doesnt exist, its more like a motive to get a whole country to go to war, if americans and europeans didnt steal from those countries there wouldnt be so much hatred towards them, and now you would of thought that 1st world countries wouldve learnt that by now but while theyre "fixing" the problem by invading them they´re making it worse and still they steal from those countries so basicly they´re just making the same mistakes over and over...