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Old 10-05-2004, 01:06 AM   #11
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I don't think Henry Anslinger's thoughts were rational when he started spouting Reefer Madness and got Marijuana criminalized.
I just have to correct this. (thanks Logos )The man's name is Harry! I know this, but I keep calling him Henry. ...At least when I'm not calling him something that would get censored... Regardless, he was an irrational, racist, greedy human being and a disgrace to our species.

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Humans, we love to work under pressure.
Speak for yourself SL! I HATE working under pressure.

I hate working under pressure, but I do leave things to the last minute. Why? Because I am spoiled and lazy just like the rest of the North American population. I do some things right away, but it's usually the things I don't want to do that I leave for the last minute. I have to force myself to do the chores that I don't want to do.

That attitude is how we have gotten where we are today. Everyone wants a better life and they think that a better life consists of having more toys and gadgets than they really need. All the television commercials are always telling us to buy their products because they will improve our lives. We think we are living a great life with all of these products and toys and gadgets, but most of these things have a negative effect on our environment and are spoiling nature.

The fruits of our rich lifestyles are poisoning our environment as we wastefully discard all of our products, toys and gadgets. Landfills are full to overflowing and more landfills are required. Where do all the batteries go that we need to run our toys with and all the out dated computers and other gadgets that we needed so desperately? The waste that we create with our spoiledness is polluting our environment. It amazed me how long recycling took to become widespread. There are still plenty of people that still don't recycle, but part of that is because some places make recycling such a pain with all their sticky rules. Recycling is still in the development phase and really should have been implemented long ago and should be well developed by now. It also shouldn't be so expensive to recycle.

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So, what will humanity do about the many problems that it has now-a-days? Well, my guess is that nothing will be done, or too little, until the moment arrives and a crisis blows up (pollution, anyone?), THEN we will start formulating ideas about how to solve the unwanted, uncalled for, how-the-hell-did-this-happen problem that nobody knew about until suddenly, it was all in their faces.
That is so true. The problems have to get right in the faces of government especially, before they will do anything. People have tried to make the US government aware of environmental problems, but the current administration just doesn't care. Why? Because they can't see any way to make a lot of money off of it.

Some people are trying to do something about it. Environmentalists are trying to get people to listen, but not the right ones are listening.

Legalizing hemp and Marijuana would make a big difference to the environment. Heh, well... as long as we keep them separate. I would someday love to see hemp completely replace plastic. Computer monitors should be made out of hemp. They are already making stereo speakers and musical instruments out of hemp.

It feels like Dupont won and Marijuana lost back in 1937. In that year, the Marijuana Tax Act was passed criminalizing Marijuana and Dupont discovered Nylon and patented the trademark for plastic. Also in that same year, coal was discovered.

Since then, we have lost thousands? of lives in coal mine accidents and to lung diseases. We have polluted our air with coal burning smokestacks. We have filled our landfills with plastic and polluted our environment with the chemicals used to make the plastics and for textiles like cotton, since we can't grow hemp for textiles. Even all those plastic bottles for all those pharmaceutical drugs we take that also pollute our environment are filling our landfills. The list is endless, really. All this damage has been done mainly because of Marijuana being criminalized.

What is the answer to fixing all of these problems? Legalize Marijuana and hemp!!!!!! Build hemp mills in every state, farmers everywhere grow hemp and we'll grow our Marijuana medicine indoors or in greenhouses so we don't cross-pollinate.
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Old 10-05-2004, 08:05 PM   #12
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Excelent Sue, I agree with you almost to the last bit... but there is something that fired up in my mind when I read this:

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Legalizing hemp and Marijuana would make a big difference to the environment. Heh, well... as long as we keep them separate. I would someday love to see hemp completely replace plastic. Computer monitors should be made out of hemp. They are already making stereo speakers and mucial instruments out of hemp.
I tend to disagree with this part. I don't think that legalizing Hemp & Marijuana will have the effect you are thinking about, if you create a computer monitor with hemp materials instead of plastic, you would still throw away the monitor after it is useless, and it will most certainly pollute the environment in some way.... don't you think?

...Or do hemp materials decompose faster than plastic? (would really like to know)

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Eco-friendly hemp can replace most toxic petrochemical products. Research is being done to use hemp in manufacturing biodegradable plastic products: plant-based cellophane, recycled plastic mixed with hemp for injection-molded products, and resins made from the oil, to name just a very few examples. (source)
It's biodegradable!

It says research is being done, but these hemp plastics are already being made.

There is some interesting hemp info at that source link for the quote I posted, I think I'll post it in the hemp forum.
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Well now, that's simply great! Now I can say that I completely agree with your former post.

Thanks for those links Sue.

So... we could have a biodegradable computer monitor, computer speakers, headphones, guitarrs, cars, bags... Wow! I think the possibilities would simply become infinite!

I really hope that we have that in the near future, it would be one of the greatest accomplishments of history.

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I really hope that we have that in the near future, it would be one of the greatest accomplishments of history.
Yes it would, 7L. Now you get it, but we have billions more people to convince.

It's too bad that the politicians that believe in this aren't the ones getting the votes. They could really lead the way and educate the masses. The politicians that are in favor of legalizing hemp and Marijuana have seen the possibilities and are doing their part to educate, but they could do a lot more if they were elected.
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Unfortunately, I think that there are many different facets to each approach, ones that are unforeseeable until the **** hits the fan.

For instance, if we used 100% biodegradable products this may not necessarily be as good as it sounds. As a result of a 'throwaway' approach and ephemeral products, more would have to be created and on a wider scale.

Yah, it dissolves safely, but what about the actual production process? That is almost certainly going to produce toxins and other unwanted byproducts.

So do you want a pop bottle that'll last your whole life (and your great-great-grandchildrens!) or do you want to use a million of them, which although they will degrade safely will also spew noxious gases into the atmosphere with each one that is made?

I wish we could just stick to using what was on/in the land as IS, because both the production process/decomposition of those materials are safe. But we can't, because it isn't 'efficient enough' for us.

But those are things you have to think of when you think of environmental issues. There is no easy way out or easy solution, you gotta think critically.

A cherry tree makes thousands of beautiful blossoms for the purpose of regeneration, when all it needs is one seed. But the process at which the flowers are created is not detrimental and when there use is complete they fall and add nutrients to the soil. The cycle is complete.

THAT'S where we have to get to.

But again, we'd have so many proverbial cherry blossoms that they'd upset the balance of the soil and we'd be back at square one.
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