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Old 04-10-2006, 04:37 AM   #1
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Morally, yay or nay?

And none of this, "I don't think there's anything wrong with abortions, but I would NEVER get one" rhetoric. When that is said, it is either a veiled anti-abortion stance, or more frequently, you're saying something like, "I am pro-abortion, but it would seriously screw with my emotions and integrity to ever put myself in that position." I feel that way myself, but in a strictly moral sense, I don't think that such argumentation passes muster for good, persuasive reasoning. I'll weigh in with my own beliefs a little later; I just want to be all Socratic for the moment.
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Old 04-10-2006, 04:53 AM   #2
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I don't think there's anything wrong with abortions, but I would NEVER get one. Well, actually I would if I could. If I got an abortion I'd get to be on Oprah and Larry King as the first man to get one.

Personally, I believe in retroactive abortion up to the age of 18, a plan I developed with a co-worker whose daughter ripped her off for everything she owned.


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I disagree. If you believe, as I do, that every woman is entitled to make a personal choice about her reproduction, there is nothing evasive about saying that you, personally, have chosen not to get an abortion. Many pro-choice people with whom I've discussed the issue have taken the same position.
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Old 04-10-2006, 05:02 AM   #3
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But just why don't you believe there's anything wrong with abortion, Buzzby? Do you think a third trimester (or to use a more common but politically loaded term, "partial birth") abortion is OK?
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third trimester abortions have less to do with morals and more to do with health concerns. It's really bad for a woman's health to get a third trimester abortion, that's probably why most doctors won't do it.
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third trimester abortions have less to do with morals and more to do with health concerns. It's really bad for a woman's health to get a third trimester abortion, that's probably why most doctors won't do it.
Fair enough, but that does not detract from the moral question.
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I am pro-abortion
pro-prostitution
pro-gambling
pro-smoking
pro-alcohol, nicotine, caffiene, lima bean and mescaline.

I believe you should be able to do anything as long as you don't infringe on other peoples rights. Fetus' are not people. Thus they have no rights to be infringed upon.
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Old 05-01-2006, 06:32 AM   #7
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Morally, nay. Legally, yay.
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Old 05-02-2006, 04:54 AM   #8
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The abortion clinic bombers feel, that by killing the doctor he is saving thousands of lives.
I think you got that backwards...If a baby could potentially become the next hitler, shouldn't abortion doctors be heroes, and aren't they saving lives?

But seriously, heres the way I look at it.

People should be responsible in the first place. Its not hard to not knock a girl up. Heres some easy rules to follow:

1. Don't be Goddamn retarded; wear a condom.
2. Go the extra mile; make sure she's on the pill.
3. If something goes wrong, just get a friggin' morning-after pill.

If you can't follow those simple rules, you are most likely too stupid to be a parent, and the life of the child would suck, therefore aborting it is the merciful thing to do.

So morally...nay-ish, because you shouldn't have knocked her up/gotten knocked up in the first place.

Legally, yay.
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1. Don't be Goddamn retarded; wear a condom.
2. Go the extra mile; make sure she's on the pill.
3. If something goes wrong, just get a friggin' morning-after pill.

If you can't follow those simple rules, you are most likely too stupid to be a parent, and the life of the child would suck, therefore aborting it is the merciful thing to do.


This seems kinda harsh. You can wear a condom and her be on the pill and still get pregnant. Shit happens. Doesn't mean your too stupid to raise a child.
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you'd have to look at the situation from two perspectives.
1. The woman's, let's say her father raped her at 15-16 years old and she gets pregnant. I can't imagine her being overjoyed at the thought of giving birth to her half sybling half child.
2. The (potential) child's, and that is all. You just took away everything they would have become...
There is no clear right or wrong the way I see it, but the laws reguarding abortion could be more refined, such as partial birth abortion (look it up) are allowed to continue.
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