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08-27-2006, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ^_^truth

See and that is just a road back to capatialism; it focuses growth on the greed of the Human being. However, the concept of competition does need to be incorrporated into any form of Government, at least until Humanity reaches a point where it no longer needs competition. Lets ignore my previous lament; and focus on what I said prior to it; that competition is necessary.

What would be a good compormise is the rid currency, and add time to enjoy pleasurable privliages (recreational drug use, sports, etc...) based on the efficentcy on smaller communities. It just follows: the more efficent one portion of a nation is, the more time is made avalible for its citizens to enjoy life. The nation wins in the development of goods, and its citizens have a release for the natrual craving of competition.

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But back to the subject at hand; Communism in its pure state is a state of anarchy, thus it is a utopian ideal. However, communism in its standard incarnation is still a great form of government. And thus I would still argue for it to be insituted.

Well ofcourse communism in its purest form will not work but my idea is to equalize it as much as possible but as to still create a drive in society to work and achieve better than others but not domination.

nerphroll · 08-27-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Zubi420

Well ofcourse communism in its purest form will not work but my idea is to equalize it as much as possible but as to still create a drive in society to work and achieve better than others but not domination.

But what would limit the drive to dominate and instead comply with such moderation? The haves would not be satisfied once they got a taste. The only thing that would make your idea work, unfortunately, is if humankind were to relinquish all selfishness, greed, and self-interest. Sort of like the weird alien species encountered in the old movie/story The Time machine. But then again, on a basic level, those things underlie "survival of the fittest."
I don't think it's enough for people to just agree to treat each other equally for the good of the group. Unfortunately, we shall never have that environment in today's world. At least not on a large scale.

08-29-2006, 02:06 AM

we should make it as much moderated and equal as possible then. Enough so that several companies monopoly over their trade and poor people are 95% of the people which is similar to today. They should make it that people only have the oppurtunity to be rich until they are satisfied. Once they are satisfied then they wont get any richer. If they never get satisfied then kill em

. They are greedy bad people.

But i have another theory. Maybe if we do communism long enough than everyone will be rich. In the beginning we all are working class level. Slowly as time progresses the whole economy will get better and organized to maximize production and we will make everything efficient. Then slowly we will all gain in richness at the same time. Im not entirely sure about this theory though.

silverspork · 11-17-2006, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zubi420

Well i believe in sorta like communism but with elections and stuff and not like one leader. But like you could choose your job based on your education. The only difference being that nobody owns anything. There will be some people richer than others to a certain extent but not much at all. I mean there is some way you can acheive more money so there is motivation to work like you could get promoted. Just you cant have businesses. But you can work at them.

And also there is no prime minister or president. Instead a group of people like congress is the executive branch. No one person should have that musch control over other people in that kind of way. Elections definetaly and governments should be as localized as possible. Like hundreds of states all over the country. Cause one big country is not a good idea

Wat do you think?

Like, seriously? Communism doesn't work, only in theory.

Sikatriz · 11-17-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zubi420

Well i believe in sorta like communism but with elections and stuff and not like one leader. But like you could choose your job based on your education.

(emphasis added)

What you've described is NOT communism!

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Originally Posted by Zubi420

The only difference being that nobody owns anything. There will be some people richer than others to a certain extent but not much at all. I mean there is some way you can acheive more money so there is motivation to work like you could get promoted.

(emphasis added)

DEFINITELY not communism!

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Originally Posted by Zubi420

Just you cant have businesses. But you can work at them.

What's the point of that? How can people work for them if there's nobody to start them?

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Originally Posted by Zubi420

And also there is no prime minister or president. Instead a group of people like congress is the executive branch. No one person should have that musch control over other people in that kind of way. Elections definetaly and governments should be as localized as possible. Like hundreds of states all over the country. Cause one big country is not a good idea

Wat do you think?

Interesting, but no thanks. I love democracy. And I love capitalism!

Edit: I actually reread your last paragraph. Now that I'm stoned and in the right state of mind to thoroughly read your rambling (sorry but you have a choppy writing style!), I've changed my mind a little bit. What you're describing in that last paragraph sounds alot like the Republican platform! Decentralize power in Washington. More power to the states. Bumper sticker. Bumper sticker.

I agree with that 100%!

Peace.

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08-29-2006, 02:06 AM	#13
Zubi420 Posts: n/a Grams: [Check] Stock Portfolio Total Value: Gain/Loss: %	we should make it as much moderated and equal as possible then. Enough so that several companies monopoly over their trade and poor people are 95% of the people which is similar to today. They should make it that people only have the oppurtunity to be rich until they are satisfied. Once they are satisfied then they wont get any richer. If they never get satisfied then kill em . They are greedy bad people. But i have another theory. Maybe if we do communism long enough than everyone will be rich. In the beginning we all are working class level. Slowly as time progresses the whole economy will get better and organized to maximize production and we will make everything efficient. Then slowly we will all gain in richness at the same time. Im not entirely sure about this theory though.

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