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Just to let you know, time began when you were born.
And it is suppose to end when you die.

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ImALittlePea

The basis of much of human reasoning and perception is causality. Cause leads to effect. An apple explodes because a bullet passes through it. The bullet was sent on it's way because of a minute explosion at the base of a tube of metal, etc...

If you follow this train of thought backwards far enough you come to the first thing: the universe, the thing where we keep all our stuff.

But if the universe is infinite, it has always been and will always be (this is really just because it expands faster than we can measure). Of course it will always be; if it's gone, we are. Every facet of human thought would simply cease. Whatever there would be, if there would be anything, after that would be unknowable and completely uncomprehendable.

So if the universe has always been around, what could have caused it? If causality is true, as our courts will have you believe, something had to cause everything. Either causality can be longer than infinity, or there's a 'god'.

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IAmTheWalrus212

But the thing is that casualty and the god thing are the two things humans have thought caused the universe. We don't know that it is one of those two; it's possible it is not. They seem likely to us as humans, and maybe even the only possible choice, but there is more out there than what we realize. For all we know, maybe the universe hasn't always been around. Maybe it doesn't exist. We don't know. Ta da!

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Mr_T_Fool

The going theroy is that there was a random collection of gas atoms/molecules(along with other atoms) and eventually some grouped together creating a small gravitational force which in turn pulled more things in and this continued until the collection collapsed on itself and exploded.........hence the BANG

 

macphearsome

Where did you hear about this? As far as I know, that is not the current model of the big bang theory. The big bang theory is meant to describe the beginning of the universe - essentially, the beginning of everything. To base the big bang theory upon the existence of something else would be... contradicting the purpose of the big bang theory.

IAmTheWalrus212

Mac- your post meant so much to me, that last part... but I don't know how. It's just exactly how I felt but not consciously... I don't know. But it is true. Other theories can go behind it though, can't they? That's weird to think about it. The scientists think it was just there... what the hell do they think happened before it? Yeesh... can't just show up.

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kebmodee

If something was always there, it never had to show up. It was just always there. That goes with the whole causality thing. If something is eternal, it didn't have to have a cause.

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PhreshwaterPhunk

I don't know about you guys, but I'd prefer living my life to the fullest without groggling on and on about religion, because we'll never know for sure here on Earth. Maybe when I die I'll learn then, but not now.

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DonkeyPunch

If the big bang theory is true, then we have what is called a singularity, which is a point in space-time at which gravitational forces cause matter to have infinite density and infinitesimal volume. When this occurs, space and time become so distorted that they can no longer be measured, and our laws of physics cannot make any provable hypotheses as to what came before. (This means time started at the big bang, like macphearsome said.) As of now, any guesses as to what happened before the Bang will remain just a guess.

Now for homework, read the first three chapters of Hawking's A Brief History of Time.

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