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Alive-And-Dreaming

I have been really good friends with this guy for about 2-3 years now. We have been through it all, thick and thin. But lately, he has started hanging out with a different croud. At first I didn't care, but they have become an extremely negative influence on his life. He has started commiting larcenous crimes and doing alot of "hard drugs", including smoking a pack a day of mentholated cigarettes.

It is important we break him away from these people before he starts doing caveman and shit like that. I don't think the people concerned about him could pull an intervention, because we are total 4/20 24/7 potheads and we do alot of other off topic mind expansion drugs. His mom is cool with us endulging in pot and occasionally fungi, but she find hard drugs to be disgusting. I don't want to rat him out because I'm not a narc, but I am genuinly concerned with his future. help me, please.

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Swabeky

Talk to him, and get your friends to talk to him. It doesn't have to be an intervention but just take him aside one day and tell him how you feel and your concerns over what he is doing. Talking is the best thing you can do right now.

Alive-And-Dreaming

We tried that, he doesn't listen. He just walked away and said "fuck you guys".

Swabeky

you can't help him if he doesn't want any, but keep talking to him, maybe someday he will start listening. This is his problem and until he wants to do something about it then it will be really hard for you and your friends to convince him otherwise.

$moKeDanK

what kind of crimes is he doing?

 

SpiralArchitect

Well seeing as you already tried talking to him and his response towards sincere concern from friends was "fuck you guys" I'd say let him be. He will learn from his mistakes and perhaps live with them the rest of his live. If he so desires to tread a path of criminal activity and drug addiction, let him, it's his choice, but don't follow him. I would say quit associating with him to show you don't approve of his recent activity and in due time perhaps he will realize the err in his ways and come forth for help or to mend the friendship.

It may not sound like 'the friend' thing to do, but he apparently isn't much of a 'friend' in the first place, or at least it seems so. After re-reading your post, it sounds to me like you guys might be younger than I thought -- if he is living with his mother, you should let her know and let her handle it as she sees fit. Sometimes a families tough love can mean much more than a friends concern.

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Merry-juana

Tell his mother, but also tell her not to tell him that you told her, and to be open minded to him. To me it sounds like he needs someone who would listen to him, not the other way around.

feedyourhead

it is nearly impossible to succeed in telling someone to stop using drugs just because you want them to. they actually have to want to. i know it's hard, but really, the more you keep pushing him to stop using whatever drugs he's using, the more you'll be pushing him away. i'm a firm believer that simply experimenting with various OT drugs does not automatically lead to addiction, but now that you know -- just keep an eye out while keeping your distance. i had a friend who was trying to hide an addiction to some OTs that i knew he had been using, but for a long time i thought he was just using recreationally. i later had my suspicions, but didn't know for sure until he came to stay at my place for a few days. he didn't have his fix, and by day 2 he was extremely irritable, sick to his stomach, shaking, pale -- showing the signs of physical withdrawl. i told him he didn't have to lie to me about what he was using... i assured him that i wouldn't judge him (i had used the same, and many other, OT's in my high school years and have seen drug addiction first-hand). he eventually came around on his own because he knew that he could come to me and i wouldn't be judgmental. he has since moved back in with is parents and stopped using these drugs. just being there and making sure the person knows that they can talk to you without a lecture will make a lot of difference, even if you don't see the effects right away... and until (God forbid) he's at the point that an intervention is needed, it's really all you can do.

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krad

Unfortunately some addicts won't be willing to reach for help until they've hit rock bottom. The best thing you can do is be the friend he knows he can go to for help. Although if he keeps that "fuck you guys" attitude, and doesn't think he needs any help, the only thing to do is distance from him and not do anything for him to obtain more "hard drugs"

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$moKeDanK

dont tell his mother, that is horrible advice. try talking to him again, but go with a diferent aproach. tell him you are concerned and you arent going to nag him, and just tell him to be carefull.