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Old 06-13-2005, 03:33 PM   #511
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WRONG WRONG WRONG

A cop cannot shoot someone just because they are fleeing. Life must be in danger before a cop can fire his weapon in the line of duty. How many times have you heard an ACTAUL cop say that, instead of one on TV or in a movie? My guess would be none, because an officer can be tried for murder if he shoots someone who is only fleeing, and isn't a danger to anyone. How do I know this? I have a 4 yr. degree in criminal justice.....the law is what i know....but don't necessarily follow
Actually, the riots here in Cincinnati a few years back were over that exact thing. Timothy Thomas, a teenage black kid, was running through an alley away from cops, and they shot him. There were huge riots over it, but in the end, the cop that shot him was acquitted of all charges.

I'm not saying the cops are always going to do it, but it can happen.
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:42 AM   #512
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Hello! New to the 420 Lounge, long time herb user.

The pig proceeded to remove my shoes and socks (where I had 4 grams of herb for personal consumption at a later time)
My parents and I were told I was being charged with "Possesion of CDS Marijuana", "Intent to distribute" and "public intoxication". Unless I gave up the source of my herb, in which I would only get possesion.
I gave the pigs a name and a dummy address in the next town over, in which they dropped it to possesion.
To this day, I cannot walk down a street in my town without being stared down by police and or spotlighted.
Intent to distribute for only 4 grams? THAT SUCKS MAN, and is pretty ridiculous! I was wondering since you gave a fake address, they didn't check it or anything? Sounds risky. And also, how many people does your town have in it? That's crazy that everyone knows about such a minor drug offense, including all the police.
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Old 06-16-2005, 11:07 AM   #513
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Actually, the riots here in Cincinnati a few years back were over that exact thing. Timothy Thomas, a teenage black kid, was running through an alley away from cops, and they shot him. There were huge riots over it, but in the end, the cop that shot him was acquitted of all charges.

I'm not saying the cops are always going to do it, but it can happen.

Just because it happened doesn't mean its standard operating procedure. if you can show me a single US police dept policy that ok's gunning down an unarmed, fleeing suspect, I'll eat my words. however.....I won't have to, because its illegal in the US to do so.


As for the actual case, one of the primary reasons the officer was acquited was that he claimed the suspect was reaching for a gun, and was therefore in fear of his life. While it is unfortuante that things unfolded that way, its easy (at least from my point of view) to see how something like that could happen. Adrealine sometimes clouds otherwise good judgement, and its very possible things happened just like the officer claimed they did. I mean, put yourself in that position.....after a long chase, you finally corner the suspect, who appears to be reaching for something, quite possibly a gun, in his waistband. Panic combined with adrenaline could ahve very well led to that kid's death. As I said, it really sucks that it happened the way it did, but would it have been any less tragic if it had been the officer who died because he hesitated too long? In that particular case, though many disagreed, the officer was in fear for his liffe and acted accordingly. Its not as if he just shot the kid for running away, which is what we were talking about here originally. When i made my original statemnet, I clearly stated that an officer cannot shoot someone unless HE BELIEVES (not HE KNOWS) his life or someone else's was in danger.
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just playing devil's advocate a bit, but what about 'taser brutlality?'

i.e. how's the legislation work on that one?
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:02 AM   #515
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Just because it happened doesn't mean its standard operating procedure. if you can show me a single US police dept policy that ok's gunning down an unarmed, fleeing suspect, I'll eat my words. however.....I won't have to, because its illegal in the US to do so.


As for the actual case, one of the primary reasons the officer was acquited was that he claimed the suspect was reaching for a gun, and was therefore in fear of his life. While it is unfortuante that things unfolded that way, its easy (at least from my point of view) to see how something like that could happen. Adrealine sometimes clouds otherwise good judgement, and its very possible things happened just like the officer claimed they did. I mean, put yourself in that position.....after a long chase, you finally corner the suspect, who appears to be reaching for something, quite possibly a gun, in his waistband. Panic combined with adrenaline could ahve very well led to that kid's death. As I said, it really sucks that it happened the way it did, but would it have been any less tragic if it had been the officer who died because he hesitated too long? In that particular case, though many disagreed, the officer was in fear for his liffe and acted accordingly. Its not as if he just shot the kid for running away, which is what we were talking about here originally. When i made my original statemnet, I clearly stated that an officer cannot shoot someone unless HE BELIEVES (not HE KNOWS) his life or someone else's was in danger.
Ok, ya got me on that one. I forgot he said in his testimony he thought the suspect was reaching for a gun. Still kinda pisses me off that he got away with that one.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:35 AM   #516
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Little off topic, but kinda back on topic at the same time, a couple friends of mine were caught reefing because their parents looked at their msn message history so make sure to put a stop to that histroy...
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Old 06-20-2005, 01:32 PM   #517
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Little off topic, but kinda back on topic at the same time, a couple friends of mine were caught reefing because their parents looked at their msn message history so make sure to put a stop to that histroy...
That's the exact reason I put a password on my computer to log in and on the screensaver, so they can't go snooping.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:01 AM   #518
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I've been smoking since i was 15 and no one ever caught me. Some of my teachers knew because of conversations I had with them about it, or I mentioned something about it in an assignment. My parents didn't "catch" me, but they didn't tell me that they knew, and I got to learn lots of interesting stuff from my parents because of this. Turns out they were pretty cool. Regardless, still never gotten caught so to say, and I've never really had a bad encounter with a cop.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:02 AM   #519
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i almost got caught by the cops once. ok so one day me and 3 friends are smoking in a park by my friends house(its like 12:30 am) so we smoke awhile then my friend tells me he cant have me sleep over. so my other friend gives me money for a taxi. we all leave but first i get a few bowls from one friend. i walk down to the main road and catch a cab after 20 minutes of looking and walking.

Im in the cab about half way home when we pull up to a red light. A cop is in the lane next to us and he looks over, honks, and turns on his lights. the light turns green so the cab driver starts to pull over and he asks me "is there a problem?" i told him no because i had no idea. so we pull over and a cop car goes behind us and one in front. they tell me to get out and they search the entire cab and find some cell phone.

by the way im in israel so theres a bit of a language barrier(i only speak english). so they start asking me stuff like were you smoking i say no. they ask if i cam from hebron road(main road, which i did come from) i say no and tell them i came from arnona(my friends neighborhood) and was at a friends house. i have a little bit of weed in a paper in my underwear(upper area). they lift up my shirt, pat me down, and even felt around my balls for a sack.

they didnt find ****, and they tell me to go.
that night ended horrible and made me have a new hate for cops, unfortunately.
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well first of all i'll start off by saying hi (im new to the forums)

The most memorable time being caught would have to be the time me and a few buddys got caught at a battle of the bands type thing. We got to the concert and sat down and started watching the bands. After a few bands got done playing they had a 25 minute intermission. After this break there was a band going on called "C Muffin". Everyone in the crowd had come up to us telling how good they were supposed to be. We were somewhat excited to see this band after all the other lame bands. So we went to the deserted upper floor of the stage and went into a bathroom. We each took a few hits in the bigger (handicap?) stall. I was taking one more hit when a guy walks in and hears me spark the lighter. My friends motion me to come out but i can't hear them. After that we thought nothing of the guy coming in so we went back and sat down to watch "C Muffin." I take a look around and see the same guy i passed by in the bathroom standing next to a cop and pointing right at us. I whisper to my friends and he walks over to us and asks us if we had been smoking. We all say no and he asks us to come out to his car. We all follow him out into the freezing weather (i live in minnesota, and its winter. ) He asks us if we want to give him anything before he searches us. One of my stupid friends gives him his lighter so now he pretty much knows we were smoking. He finds a pipe, a little bit of shake, and chew on my friend that gave up the lighter. My other friend had nothing on him. After that the cop started patting me down and i had a bag in my front right pocket. My heart was racing as he got to that pocket. Once he was done he said "ok your good." I cracked a smile and started laughing. Later after he was done getting my friends info (the kid with all the **** on him) he said "oh well too bad you missed the rest of the bands. i heard that C Muffin band was a HIT." ive not seen a more asshole of a cop since.
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