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I've been thinking and i have a question for you guys.
I have the mentality of "i will never get caught, just dont make any traffic mistakes"
I know that is the wrong thing to think because i COULD get cauht easily.. But i just think that when i drive high or drive with weed or whatever, that I will obey every traffic rule and not mess up. how will i get caught?

 

blondie0420

That's what I try to do. I figure if I do everything right, I'll give them less reason to suspect that I'm doing anything wrong.

I'd guess it's a lot easier to get caught with weed or paraphernaila in your car if you're driving like a maniac, speeding and running through red lights, right?

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start an international seed distribution business and be completely transparent about your business. Explain to national media that you are responsible for "criminal" activities that fund legalization activism. Sell you product to the U.S.!

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troublemaker_42

Actually, that makes perfect sense. you cannot be pulled over randomly, so if you obey the traffic laws, keep your car "legal" (all lights work, no illegal tint, etc) and mind your own business, its quite hard to get caught. Remember, while DUI checkpoints can hppen, the US Supreme Courts have ruled against such drug checkpoints.....a common trick they use is to place signs for such checkpoints announcing them, thenobserve cars either attempting to throw out anything illegal, or those who turn around or otherwise try to avoid the checkpoint. Then, they pull them over on the pretext of a traffic violation and attempt to bust them. This can and does happen, so if you see a drug checkpoint sign, act as though it was never there, as such a checkpoint would be illegal. Its a nifty trick but one easily beat with knowlwedge on the subject.

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BC.Buddy

Really? I wonder how many people would contest that claim? Saying that they were indeed pulled over for no good reason.

What ruling was that?

Yet they still use them?



And what would your advice be to those who are actually stopped at one of these checkpoints? Should they just drive away, as they are 'illegal'?

What's that? Just drive through a police road checkpoint? Act like you don't notice? Sorry, I don't understand...

 

troublemaker_42

Really? I wonder how many people would contest that claim? Saying that they were indeed pulled over for no good reason.


The officer has to prove probable cause. If the PC wasn't present, the case can be thrown out


What ruling was that?

I'm not sure of the exact ruling, but they have been declared Unconsitutional

Yet they still use them?

NO...they don't use them....they put up signs announcing a checkpoint that isn't ever there. If you drive past the signs, you'll never encounter an actual checkpoint. I never once said they still used them, if you'd reread my post you'd see that.



might seem fuuny, but its true



And what would your advice be to those who are actually stopped at one of these checkpoints? Should they just drive away, as they are 'illegal'?


Considering the actual checkpoint will never materialize, yes, thats exactly what I'd suggest. Do you expect people to stop at an invisable checkpoint?


What's that? Just drive through a police road checkpoint? Act like you don't notice? Sorry, I don't understand
I've explained it already...THERE IS NO CHECKPOINT!!!! They post signs announcing an imaginary checkpint, so they can observe the cars that either attempt to ditch illegal contraband or avoid the checkpoint. They actually station spotters in the vacinity to observe vehicles that do this

BC.Buddy

I'm sorry, Trouble. Here in Canada, they still use road blocks. Can't imagine the U.S. passing a law calling them unconstitutional before Canada does.

Fair enough, they don't use check points. They merely put signs up and watch the folks that throw **** out their windows.

That's crazy.

Anyone got an example of this situation not being true? Perhaps in another state than Trouble's in?

Again, if you're right; that's sweet.

troublemaker_42

well, if a supreme court case will validate my statements, here you go

http://www.aclu-em.org/pressroom/200...heckpoints.htm

BC.Buddy

It wasn't about proof. But I think you know that.

It was about you either being rude to the original poster, or not.

It turns out you were just being sarcastic.

Either way, great article. However, is this moreso about the recent decision about police dogs, moreso then roadchecks?

Have roadchecks been labelled unsconstitutional throughout the U.S.?

If so,

RIGHT ON!

troublemaker_42

Roadchecks are unconstitutional, but no, this doesn't effect the decision that drug dogs can conduct sniffs of your vehicle. They can't put up a roadblock and sniff any vehicle that passes, but if you are pulled over for a traffic violation, the officer can detain you for a "reasonable time" while a dog sniffs your vehicle, or is called to the scene. The "resonable time" is supposed to not be any longer than the average traffic stop, but ultimately its the judge who determnes if the length of time the person was detained was "reasonable" which throws a LOT of leeway into the equation


Also, this was a US Supreme Court case. it applies to all states equally

Just a suggestion though....there was never an issue about me being rude to an original poster in this thread. Lets keep our posts seperate, as to not confuse people as to what we're referring to