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thegoat

Ok, first before i compare parents and crack addicts I would like to clarify that one of THE MAIN reasons pot is and will remain illegal is becuase of loving parents that would do anything to protect their kids from being hurt in anyway. I first realized this when i saw Bill Mahr on pottv where the had a video of him speaking at a norml convention. He pointed out that worried loving parents are what makes up our nation becuase of the fact they are the main percentage of the vote. Since they are the majority of vote and one of their main priorities is protecting their kids alot of damage is and can be done due to most parents tendancy to selfishly do whatever it takes to protect their kids from anything and everything.

In knowing the above one night i got a thought and found that loving parents can be compared to crack addicts. Ive never been a crack addict or a parent so i could be toataly wrong here, but i think their is at least some truth if not more in the comparison so here it goes...

what does a crackaddict do. well first a crackhead must become a crackaddict. with the first breath of crack comes a rush of a new world better than the one before. after this if addicted the crack head will slowly change his life to revolve around crack and the need to do it. so the crack addicts normal previous life slowly deteriorates and changes to revolve around the need for crack. money is spent, sacrafices are made, and lifestyle is changed, but for crack it's worth it so all these things are tollerated. if something threatens the ability to do crack or the supply of crack(possibly family, friends, and parts of previous lifestyle that don't approve) it is delt with untill it no longer threatens the supply or ability to use crack. same goes for other addicts any form of heavy adictoin will do. same goes for alcoholics...their life slowly deteoriates and pushes away anything that threatens their new lifestlye revolving around booze.
what does a parent do? well first a parent must become a parent. after the first birth of a child between parents a new life immerges. after the childs birth so as long as the parents love and want the child they will procede to slowly change their lives to revolve around their child or children. money is spent, sacrafices are made, time is spent, lifestyle is changed, but having children is better than all these other things so the sacrafices are worth making. if anything threatens to harm the child in anyway it is delt with untill it is of no threat(example here would be basically ANYTHING that threatens to effect your child in any negative way at all also including anything that would cuase the children to have conflicting thoughts with parents).

My point is that all to often i think parents tend to confuse loving their children with the will to do whatever it takes to avoid knowing what life would be like without them (addiction?). this excuse of loving your kids is accepted all to often especialy in areas when the situation is more important then some kids. Their are many instances, but the one im focussing on here is marijuana. America's "loving parents" would rather all the bad things that come from marijuana prohibition continue and be furthered so long as they can say their kids are protected from using pot. If their child uses pot they might start thinking different, questioning, using other drugs, possibly get into trouble which could harm them or get them killed which would make them less or not accesible to their parents. so whatever it takes to best deal with these threats is tolerated and a blind eye is turned to all the damage done by pot prohibition just so long as their kids are a little bit safer.

Parents are the selfish child loving part of our generation that will do ANYTHING no matter what the cost and who it effects to keep their children """""safe"""". in my opinion this is not love so much as an addiction and the actions needed to be takin to protect the supply and access to it (it being children).

I'm not saying ALL parents are like this and its not a one sided deal where parents are one way or the other, but i think often MANY parents tend to confuse loving their children and being "addicted" to their children. love is being able to let go...and not a single person on this earth would ever be able to convince me their kids are more important than the well being of a nation or nation's. hope all this was clear. the comparison doesn't seem relevant, but the idea behind it stands to reason.

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There should be a quote here, but i probably got high and forgot to make one, or can't remember what i wanted to say...or did I?

 

schwadood

that is an interesting comparison, i'm not really sure what to make of it yet. but taking care of your children should be the most important issue to a parent. the parents right now, the majority i mean, feel like it is better if their child dosen't have access to diff drugs. the thing they don't realize is that by perpetuating prohibition, they are making it easier for their child to get drugs. a twelve year old can't walk into a liqour store, but he can buy a dimebag in the bathroom of his school. and drug education needs to be re-vamped. they need to emphasize that their are diff stages of use, that it is very possible to responsibnly use certain substances, and others are harder to. the realities behind what drugs do to you, the positives and the negatives.

the children are imprortant to the well-being of a nation. children eventually grow up and then they are the nation. Parents should be concerned but they are going about it the wrong way.

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thegoat

i kind of complicated it with the comparison, but i basically just mean that alot of parents blame things rather than take responsibility for their children...violence on tv is why my kid beat some one up...drugs is why my kid is in trouble...

so yeah the upbringing of a child is no doubt the top priority of a family...im jus sayin...parents dont always wanna let their children grow up...which is understandable by all means...but some of the things they do are selfish as well as not always wanting to admit their faults or even their childs which is big part of why parents fear and hate drugs so much...its much easier to say my kid gets bad grades cuase the drugs hes doin are messin him up then it is to say...my son is a half-ass.

the whole addict comparison was just an observation of the extremes parents will go to in order to protect their kids and keep blame off themselves and their children...

schwadood

alright, now that you cleared that up it makes a whole lot more sense. in fact my original post basically re-iterated what you were saying, so it had no real point. why am i still typing i'm not even stoned, or am i? no, no i'm not.

prozak

Love is an addiction. The problem is ignorance in thinking that a Law can change anything, and that one can flip a Symbol from a distance and protect where love wasn't shown enough or clearly enough. America is a ****ed up place where parents often can't express any love for their children, nor can they express any values with balls. Hence we all hate our parents and their cowardice, and they retaliate with increasingly weak actions.

 

AndieBear

I see a HUGE diference between ADDICTION and LOVE. I'm not addicted to my children, I love them. It is hard to explain the life changes when a child is born, but they are immediate. For 9 months, you are expecting a happy healthy baby, you are worried something might go wrong, that you wont be a good enough parent. All kinds of things. Then when you first hold that tiny infant, you automatically realize, this is a PERSON, and I am responsible for them.

That's a lot of weight to bear. Then you realize all the bad things in this world, and can imagine how it's only going to get worse as they get older. It is an unfair battle.

It is our goal to protect our kids and give them all the oppurtunities we didn't have ourselves. It's also a cycle, each generation hoping to pass on new ideas and standards, yet ultimetly we end up as the generation before us, learning all our habits from the past.

I believe, that although mj prohibition was started by a bunch of racist people and their propaganda, it was carried on by the scare tactics that were absorbed by parents as well as their children. The gov't has realized that this is the best tactic, and continue to brainwash kids today through antidrug programs like DARE.

Some laws made by active parents are good ones, like seatbelts for kids and fences around swimming pools. Yes, they invade your ability to make a choice, but sometimes, it's just better to be prepared.

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prozak

"I believe, that although mj prohibition was started by a bunch of racist people and their propaganda, it was carried on by the scare tactics that were absorbed by parents as well as their children."

I think that racism is incidental to the reasons that they ban drugs. IMO the origin is a religion that is intolerant of altered states of mind, and this religion is the basis of our public morality at this time.

Good post Andie on being a Mom. I'll never be one (not female!) but it'd be nice to have 6-9 children some day, each by a different woman not related to me*.

* - You have to post this disclaimer if you're going to say something like that on the Internet.

AndieBear

Thank you, and at least your babies mamma's wont be related to you...I guess

As far as racism goes, I believe it was the unerlining cause for prohabition. Since everything was segregated back then, the whites didn't really have to deal with african americans, who had the come back of "You brought me here". Where as the Mexicans who were cheap laborers, already here, and used marijuana predominantly at that time were seen as taking good american jobs. Whites mostly used Opium in the 30's.

But that is besides the point...I could ramble on all day about this topic, not really getting anywhere...see original post

Sorry I'm not more talkative, it's just too deep for me to comment on now, maybe later, after a toke!

thegoat

eh love is love maybe it's best left at that...it's also an attachment too, but these are personal issues and i'm to young to know the otherside so..thnx for replies

Stephanie S.

I agree with pretty much everything AndieBear said. I definitely don’t think that I am addicted to my son and step-children. Matter of fact, some days I look longingly toward the future when they will be self sufficient and ready to take on the world.

For me, I just feel an incredible sense of responsibility to do the very best that I can to prepare our children for life. Life including the mundane tasks of paying bills and doing laundry to the more abstract aspects of life such as developing a sense of compassion, autonomy, and dignity.

All of the ideals we have in mind for our children may get squashed in the dust on day. We can teach them till the cows come home, but in the end, they make their own choices. No amount of "protection" can change that simple fact. If we instill strong values in our children, basing those values on tangible evidence, I think, I hope, I pray, that our kids will trust that we showed them the reality of life with honesty and integrity and that they will grow up to be avid and responsible decision makers.

It's not an addiction for me at all. It's just an overwhelming feeling that I have to "do the right thing" and be involved, educate and nurture our kids development to the best of our abilities. Today, more than ever we know so much about how children learn. If parents just take some time to spend with their kids and be honest and open, I think they will at least be at the starting line in the race to raise happy, healthy and productive contributors to society.

peace

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