Marijuana.com

Stoned247

Dude some of those JW's came to my sisters house and her husband let them in, they talked with him for a bit, then he told them his kid had a blood transfusion. They told my brother that his kid was going to hell because he had a blood transfusion! So my brother went to his room and came out with the 12 gauge, and chased them out of the house.

 

oldhead

I have no problem with religion and smoking herb. In fact I often read scripture when I get high it really adds to the calming effect of the herb(for me).
I have had some really awsome experiances doing that. Marijuana grows from the ground naturally, I beleive it is a gift from God, just as scripture says wine is a gift from God. It is mean't to inhance life. The problem with religion today as I see it is people don't practice the teachings of religion love,forgiveness...ect. Herb makes me think(as herb will do) about these things a little more deeply than I normally would.

Jewdao-Christian faith is all about how you relate to other people. If you truly have the love of god in you, you won't steal from others or kill them..ect. Its all about treating others with the same compassion and respect you would like to have shown to yourself. Its the truth of the teachings and thier practice that makes you a better person and brings you peace. Well thats my view any how. I guess my whole point is pot enhances the spiritual imo

maxilion

no man i just found out 3 of my friends werecreatinists. Its like so what god just went poof andthere were living things? Noway did that happen. It is evolution. And then I said oh so what did god just create dinosaurs too? He didnt know. He had to ask his other creationist friend. Like adam and eve was FAKE. People voted on what to put in the bible for some of us. Many people just added their own version to the bible because they were not organized. It is like you and me being made up stories and that being the word of god. Can you believe that? I mean really now think logically. And then this other guy waslike oh and they proved naural selection is fake too. I was just thinking you just dismissed darwin and everything hestood for. I think that Darwin would know more than just some common guy off the street, So to sum it up WE CAME FROM APES. Give me some arguements for him, I even stumped him he was like yeah well whatever who cares.

Ir0n_mE

I'm basically a humanist/atheist so smoking ganja doesn't conflict with my beliefs as long as I use it responsibly and don't hurt anyone else through my use. I'm also honest with people about my smoking since I have nothing to hide.

imported_Rayvyn

Let me tell everyone on here my credentials for offering any kind of suggestion I have to the matter. First of all, I am a shamanic mystic with a licensed ministership. I have my own religion and am the pastor of it, and I have some very "enlightened" words that will hopefully make any pot smoker or drug user feel better.(Mod note-marijuana is the only drug we discuss here, per the posting guidelines you agreed to follow when joining this site) I use all of them to know myself, which ultimately is God.
First of all, God wants us to be happy. No matter what incarnation of the Divine Creator that anybody chooses to worship or use, they are worshiping the One. The "One" is most likely an energy source; from the extensive research I have collected, God most likely is a sound ("In the beginning there was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word became flesh and lived amongst us"... the Hindu sound for "Om", which was the beginning noise; etc which also produces light, which essentially is what everything was first created from, or at least, that is what most tend to believe. Even when somebody dies, we tell them to go towards the light. As a common race, we tend to believe that the light is the "good" side, while darkness and obscurity are "bad." This translates well into religion.
Moreover, it is important to say that science is a way to discover God, as has been mathematically proved to me by a physicist in Utah who is named Edward Hoganson. He, too, is a man of great faith, and he has showed how 13 primary equations, brought together by Einstein's God Equation have shown that God not only exists, but also, in what manner, at least on a macrocosmic scale, things are created.
For all Bible-thumpers, or any who fail to stray from their religion in search of a more enlightened way of thinking, if science is a way to figure out the way the world works, and God created the world, including the forces and implementations that keep it surviving, then by a simple means of substitution, (A=B;B=C;A=C) Science is a way to figure out the way God works, which is irrefutable, even by the most uneducated of fools.
So you are probably thinking, "Alright, so this crackpot pretenda-pastor has told me a bunch of useless, most likely irrelevant information, but what does that have to do with pot? Pses.
I know that I and my girlfriend have experienced vaot allows a human being to expand his/her narrow perceptions of the realities that actually are. Things that we were not able to appreciate with a fullness before, like watching dew evaporate on a flower in the early morning, pot enables us to take time out to "smell the roses", or in this case, watch the roses
i know that pot has drastically changed my spiritual life since I started smoking marijuana. Among my favorite activities while I am high are meditation, prayer, and reading about philosophies of God. I collect and thouroughly study books like, "The other Bible", "The Gnosis of the Cosmic Christ", "Ancient Pagan Civilizations", "The Big Book of Worldly Deities", "The Hiram Key", The Qu'ran, Quabbalah, the Bible, The Teachings of the Buddahs, Yogi's (especially Maharishi Mahesh Yogi), The Dalai Lamas, and most other Eastern philosophies. In addition, reading and researching cultures and their deities for the other parts of the world that they are in. You will find that all the religious texts have the same underlying messages about the way one is to live his life, but they differ only in their petty pretenses of how the world was made, how it will end, what their God looks like, and how it Effects us. These are all just guesses, but anyone with enough common sense to blow their nose should understand that killing, or stealing is bad. And if they were schooled enough, they would understand that everytime they stole, they would be a contributor to the inflation of prices and actually be causing the society a great detriment by exuding a scandalous attitude, and robbing the free enterprise system.
God, undoubtedly, if you believe in any kind of intelligent design, or even in science where one can replace God with Spontaneous Energy or any such thing of variable "X", created or allowed pot to be created. This certainly means that it serves a purpose. It would, however, be outrageously egotistical and "medieval" of man to say that pot is only here for the use of man. On the flip side, however, why should we not be able to use this, what appears to be, miracle herb with THC that decreases our chances of getting brain, breast, and lung cancer; that helps our sick feel better and NATURALLY get over their pain without any kind of addiction or sick, twisted side-effect like pharmaceutical drugs; that allows responsible religious and recreational users like myself and so many thousands of others be able to expand their minds and free themselves up to the wonders of this world. Why would a loving and all caring God want us to not use this great and wonderful resource?
Ben Franklin, a known and admitted Freemason, and an extraordinbarily faithful servant of the Christian God was known as having said, "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." I'm sure that one of the most ingenious, influential, and powerful men of the world in its entire existence would not give us information that is incorrect, and I go on further to state that Ben Franklin, if he thought beer was reason to show that God loves us and wants us to be happy, would go apeshit over pot. I strongly believe that the only reason Beer is not replaced with Cannabis, is that these majestic power plants were generally used as fibers and cloth (as it should still be today, but I digress).
One should not feel any more ashamed or farther away from God because of being a pot smoker than a laborer should be taken away from the field because he works too diligently. Pot can be a tool, or it can be a hazard, it all depends on the user, and to put it in terms that we might understand-terms that reflect what the creator might be able to say- it depends entirely upon the intention of the action and the intention of the user.

 

manbearpig

im just scared that, if i smoke pot, i will go to hell when i die, but im startin to believe not.

Mamabudz

Allow me to address this first --and again, I do so as a "heathen" a Jew, not a member of any Christian sect so take my words with that understanding:

Under Christian beliefs, the most basic belief taught by Jesus reflects that of his greatest teacher who was a rabbi 100 years before his birth, Rabbi Hillel who is quoted as saying "What is hateful to you do not do to others...". Jesus requoted this as the Golden Rule "Do Unto Others as YOu would Have them Do Unto You". Both place the highest level of goodness in the actions of man to man and ask that we act in a manner that would create heaven on earth if we could all only abide by these basic tenets.

In respect to smoking pot, then the question is it hurtful to ourselves or to others when we do so. If the answer is yes, than it is something we should choose against or we should, as humans with the ability to change our actions, alter those actions so as not to injure ourselves and/or others.

"Going to hell when you die" is a strong deterrent and deeply ingrained into many Christian sects as a basic belief; however you must determine yourself if this is a warning against poor behaviour or a matter of spiritual final determination.

In the Jewish belief, there is neither heaven nor hell. There is the belief that through your actions in the here and now you bring yourself further away or closer to your One-ness with the Transcendant and upon death it is that part of you that has had an experience of life that rejoins that One-ness, closer or further to it, based on how life was lived during your time as an incarnate soul in our world. To be closer to G_d is to be in Paradise, to be further from Paradise is simply to be further therefrom for eternity. As G_d is a transcendant and omniscient concept, there is infinite space in Paradise.

To answer my friend Some Stoned Jew:

Ah... you may have been raised "reformed" but isn't it ironic that you present yourself as a Jew...

It is who and what we are and as you mature through life, and beleive me you continue to grow until that first clod of dirt is tossed on your coffin, you will discover there is a difference between the way you think and others who were raised Christian think.

Weed brought me closer in a few ways: One was geting to know PapaBudz, who is an Orthodox, 2nd generation Holocaust survivor, hebrew and yiddish speaking, yeshiva (rabbinical school) student. Over 10 years we smoked a lot of pot and talked a lot of religion.

I was brought up Reform too -- the shul closed during the summer since everyone was on vacation, if that gives you an idea. I was not bat mitzvah.

But I always recognized I was a Jew. It's who and what I am.

Then I discovered that cannabis (kanahbosem -- sweet smelling cane) is all over the Tenakh (first five books of the Torah). In fact 9 pounds of the "best flowering tops" of it are found in the secret recipe for annointing oil used in the Sinai Desert to cover the taberbnacle, tent, clothes, hair and bodies of the Priests of Aaron (Moses' brother) as they stood int he desert sun enclosed in this tent to pray.

Cannabis/ weed has a psychoactive compund THC that rebonds to oil very easily, and 9 pounds of headies rubbed into the skin in a warm environment is an excellent method of getting very very stoned.

Yes Moses and the rest of the Priest were stoned in the dessert as they contemplated the Mosiac laws and such written out in Exodus and Leviticus. Sort of gives it a whole new perspective now doesn't it?

So that is another way that weed brought me "closer" to Judaism, I found that it was already there.

And lastly, for now, it helped me to find a spiritual nature to my interpretation of how I wish to practice, which may not be how others may choose to do so. I am very interested in the female aspect of G_d, the Shekhinah, the Asherah. One reason we "do not say the name of G_d", is that there is no way to encompass all that Is the transcendant Euphimism that is G_d (hence the "_" I insert when specifically discussing matters of my own faith). There are strong feminine mysteries that attract me and hold me to my religious beliefs, there is no subjugation of the Feminine in the manner in which I practice Judaism.

I hope that has helped answer your questions.

...have a cookie

Mama Budz

alex_n_alaska

My parents were southern babtist, but some how I was born HUMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a concience, so I do not need a book to tell me right from wrong. plus how does the dude up front blabbing on about this and that gonna help me? He already has it made. Do you people have a CLUE as to how much a lil ole preacher makes?

Religion/politics. They should be like that in the dictionary.

CHOOSE a religion. Then come talk to me. I am athiest, but I have read tomes of material on ALL religions. They are all(mostly except a few asian and island beliefs) basically the same BOOK. They are rule books put in play by people w/money to keep the poor scared and poor

KING JAMES VERSION...........I mean that says it all????

Jew? Just because your mom had a little certin blood in her? The arion brother hood works along those lines, so am I arion because I have blonde hair and blue eyes? NO.

Catholic because your dad was? I just don't get it, and PLEASE do not try to explain it.

This is insane, but noone seems to mind killing and stealing in thier gods name. So, I declare myself god. Now where can I find an army willing to rape and pilage? Oh, there in ____________!!!!!! Oh, or I could get the 1st team that looses in the world cups fans?? that would work.....lol

like my good old dead ass grand pa said," I don't care what you do, just don't do it on my front porch."

__________________
"To speak(type) without thinking is to shoot without aiming." Dixie chicks

REPEAT

" You see things; and you say, WHY?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, " why not?'-1930s George bernard shaw

" I dream of things that never were, and ask why?"-Robert francis kennedy 1960s

Can you say plagerisim? And why do the politicains get credit for what some speach writer came up with? lol

Zubi420

It brought me closer too. Im muslim. It bringers you closer to god and one step higher on the understand everything ladder. Just one step though but thats still pretty good.

Bhikku

Even though marijuana is an intoxicant and therefore frowned upon in my religion (I'm a Soto Zen Buddhist) I still use marijuana on a daily basis, because I disagree with people who say it only clouds your mind.

For me, marijuana may cloud my mind on an intellectual level, but it opens up for me entirely new levels of emotional connection with other sentient beings. And this oneness is part of what I feel Buddhism to ultimately be about. Marijuana brings out a simpler, more compassionate side of my nature that I consider to be closer to my buddha-nature than when I am sober, so I do not feel badly about breaking the rules about smoking it, especially since I take care to smoke in moderation and to balance it with other aspects of my life. Also, smoking a joint before meditation helps me to focus and come into a blank, receptive state of mind very quickly. It's almost like self hypnosis.

Overall, I consider marijuana to be very helpful to my spiritual practice, but sometimes I am prone to be excessive with it. I'm trying harder to practice toking in moderation, though, in accordance with Buddhist law. In the lax version of Buddhism I practice (though I still meditate and study the texts) I obey most of the rules most of the time, but I also consider my two overwhelming points of moral judgement to be a) Treat others as I would want myself to be treated, and b) Most small vices are acceptable, as long as they are held to moderate habit.

__________________
"Being high is one of the most pleasant sensations available to mankind. Every day is Saturday. It is to be like a child; to perceive events with clarity; to look into the gates of paradise; to completely enjoy whatever you might be doing."