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MJBlessMe

Hello,

This post is for the religious heads out there. And I'm not talking just heads who "believe in God" or some vague deity. This post is addressed to the heads who actually practice, who read their respective religions holy texts, who attend services, etc.

Tell us about your spiritual life (again, please don't post if your one of those vaguely "I am a very spiritual person" types). How do you reconcile smoking pot with your religion (most organized religions don't take kindly to the reefer). Let me know any particular insights you've had on this subject.

Also, do you ever wonder whether you're purposefully trying to fool yourself and make allowances for yourself to continue smoking the cheeba?

I know this can be a hard subject. It has been for me. I'll post my details later.

p.s. the last three posts of mine have been closed down so I'm hoping this will be a good one!

 

Vicki

I'm going through the same thing, in a way. I am not practicing, but hear me out.

I used to be a Jehovah's Witness, for many years. Currently, my husband and myself are disfellowshipped for nothing. Yes, nothing. We had been inactive for a number of years, and then all of the sudden, we get a call that says we are disfellowshipped, but no reason is given. My biggest concern has always been that I will be judged for using marijuana, according to the JW's. They say there is no good reason to use marijuana. None of them know I am currently using marijuana as medicine.

We were considering going back until we got that phone call. We were furious. When we were considering going back, I knew I couldn't stop using marijuana because it is my medicine now. The JW's wouldn't care that I'm disabled and in constant pain, but would God?

So, we are kinda in limbo, religion wise. I'm sick of all this crap with that religion, but it's hard to take in new ideas when you have been brainwashed to believe a certain way for years.

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MJBlessMe

I don't mean to change the subject of this thread this is a reply to VickiFL-

vickifl: Balancing organized religion with personal spirituality can be really hard. Especially when you embrace an activity that has traditionally been viewed as amoral. However, imo organized religion has value. Besides being (In the case of christianity) ordained by the Word, having others to support you and for you to support is invaluable. I've tried, and its hard to stay spiritually minded without the support of others.

if anyone thinks they can do without organized religion, can it do without you? yeah, it probably can, but it also is an avenue for you to support others.

okay a little off topic. thanks for your post vickifl. don't break things off with JWs, find out why you got disfellowshipped. try to make things right, and if you consider the case objectively (i.e. you're not just offended and pissed off at the JWs) and they aren't acting right, maybe look somewhere else. they probably disfellowshipped you and your husband because of your lack of attendance. if they hadn't made any effort to get you back into attendance, then i'd say this is hugely wrong on their part.

p.s. I know i've been brainwashed. we all have been. the only thinking we're capable of is based on our own experience. but we've all experienced right and wrong and even if we've been told that right is wrong and wrong is right we should be able to distinguish between theese for ourselves. its something i've had a hard time with, questioning everything i've been taught, experienced or otherwise learned.

i ramble. apologies.

Vicki

We contacted the elders for a reason why we were disfellowshipped, and they lied. They said we wrote a letter saying we didn't want to be a part of the JW's organization anymore, and we did no such thing. We were just inactive for a few years, not attending meetings, etc.

My Dad died a year ago this March 20th. This situation with the elders happened not long ago. My Mom, being the bitch she is, decided she wasn't going to talk to us anymore because we are disfellowshipped. (My Mom is still active with the JW's)

There are other things the elders let slide (that were really bad, that other people have done), and we get disfellowshipped for nothing? I'm sick of it. Frankly, we don't know what to believe anymore, and we have no liking for organized religion today.

MJBlessMe

I don't blame you. Organized religion HAS gone astray countless times. despite being institued by God, its composed of inherently flawed human beings. the reformation did some good, but the reformers could have gone alot of farther. and now modern day protestant churches have lapsed back to the state of the catholic church they originally broke away from.

i know i'm going to get this thread shut down because this has nothing to do with pot. so yes, thanks for your comments vickiFl - good luck to you.

lets get some more perspective on Religion and/vs. Marijuana! is the pothead lifestyle at odds with God? is it any different if you only toke occasionally, or is that just a justification to smoke at all?

 

kontroversy

If you look at the cannabis plant closely, it's simply amazing. What other plant on this earth has a substance that reacts to cannabinoid receptor's in our bodys?

A plant like that was put here in good furtune by the man himself for us to enjoy.

/Next.

Thats what i LIKE to think. But sometimes i get a few twisted thoughts, like ths plants is of the devils essence and by loving it so much we are giving into the devil and commiting ultimate sins. I feel like everytime we smoke the devil is chuckling and saying "hook, line, and sinker".

But....It makes me smile...cant help but hope its such a devine plant here as it is there.

homemadebubbler

I dont have this problem since I find religon outdated, pointless, and evil. For centuarys its been nothing more then an excuse to kill people. " Your not an (insert relgion here)? Lets go to war"

When the cavemen didnt understand something, they would create stories about how things exsist (sun gods, gods of plants, etc.). People did the same thing later, and hence relgion.

I find it so amusing that everyone assumes their relgion is right and everyones elses is wrong. It really gives me a kick.

In theroy, the principals of pretty much every relgion are good (no killing, raping, etc), its just too bad that so many people dont live up to these rules.

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erik000

I stopped going to church two years before my first toke, so I don't have any problems here... My religion, if anything, is passion for music and herb definetely is a part of that.

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Mamabudz

Cannabis brought me closer to my religion.

I'm Jewish.

mars

I grew up catholic, but I'm not that religious... I agree with homemadebubbler, just take a look at history and you'll notice organized religion is just a barrier between people. Modern-day religion is usually pretty irrational and is more of a guideline for morals in my opinion, but it's hard to disprove the teachings of the church... I believe that you should be able to make your own decisions, and still believe in your faith if you choose to, whether or not they sometimes contradict each other.

With that being said, I'll go to church occasionally so my mom isn't so disappointed (lol), though I usually don't agree with the church's position on certain issues... and that's why I chose myself that marijuana isn't as bad as the church may want to say

well anyway, I hope some of that made sense...