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Old 10-18-2007, 02:43 AM   #31
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IMO parents shouldn't be able to govern our lives. Ik our brains arent fully developed and i understand that, but thats like saying since we dont have full brains we arent fully human, and that just isnt true. We should have all the same legal rights that adults have (which we dont, look at the juvy court system). oPpReSsIoN is how i see it.


You said it yourself, your brains aren't fully developed. If you had the same legal rights that adults had, then when you did something stupid & got in trouble, the excuse would be "our brains aren't fully developed!" Be glad you get off easier in the Juvy system.

Look at it from your 'rents point of view, they only want what's best for you. [Old timer mode] When I was your age, I thought my parents were only trying to make my life difficult, but now that I'm a parent, I realize they weren't. They probably remember some of the crazy s#!t they did as a teen (I sure do) & they are trying to protect you a little by setting rules. Part of growing up is learning limits, even as an adult you have them. If you don't learn how to deal with rules as a youngster, it only makes things harder for you when you are older. Also, if we know you can follow rules, then we start to trust you more & may relax some rules a little. [/Old timer mode]

My teen tried the guilt trip on me once. Because I smoke & drink, I was a hypocrite for telling him he couldn't. I told him that I have a full time job that keeps a roof over his head & the bills paid. His job was to get good grades & graduate. He could either follow my rules, or get the hell out & get a job. There are lots of things adults legaly can do that kids can't (smoke cigs, drink, gamble, get married, etc.). I think I got through to his head.

I'm not trying to lecture you, I'm just trying to help you see a different point of view.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:27 AM   #32
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I'm just going to throw in my 2 cents...it could help. I've only read the first page however....

I love smoking weed just as much as anybody on this board, yet its been 3 months since I've taken even a hit of MJ, and its not my choice. There are things in my life that I've had to realize come before marijuana. By the time I get back from work and school, its 6 or 8 PM and I spend the remainder of my day doing work around the house, or homework. At first, I tried to fight to get more days off of work and attempted to find any way to get out of or quickly 'get rid' of my homework. In the end, my grades started suffering, my job NEEDED me, and I needed the money in order to drive and shit. Plus, it didn't help that my parents were getting suspicious...coming home hesitating to recall where I'd been all day, always being 'tired', etc. etc.

What I'm trying to get at, is your 16 and you have 2 years left until you are legally an adult and have the ability to move out of your parents house. The BEST option, whether or not you want to hear it, is to tough it out and stop smoking (or at least 'drastically reduce') marijuana for the 2 years you have left in that house. That way you're able to drive (which is an amazing privilege, in my opinion) and have freedom from earning your parents trust.

OR, you could keep doing what your doing, risk getting caught, and make the last 2 years at your house worse then they have to be.

Also wanted to point out that, you are able to get your license without parental consent when you're 18 years old. However, I do realize that some parents have a "you live in my house, you play by my rules" attitude, and if that was the case with you, you probably wouldn't get your dads trailblazer. Technically, when you're 18 years old you can get your license and purchase a vehicle whether or not your parents allowed it. You'd just need to money for the car.

Anyway, my opinion. Just realize that theres logical ways to get past this that can benefit you. Trying to lie and cheat your way through drug tests just seems like a lot of walking on egg shells. It'd get old and exhausting fast.
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:09 AM   #33
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I'm just going to throw in my 2 cents...it could help. I've only read the first page however....

I love smoking weed just as much as anybody on this board, yet its been 3 months since I've taken even a hit of MJ, and its not my choice. There are things in my life that I've had to realize come before marijuana. By the time I get back from work and school, its 6 or 8 PM and I spend the remainder of my day doing work around the house, or homework. At first, I tried to fight to get more days off of work and attempted to find any way to get out of or quickly 'get rid' of my homework. In the end, my grades started suffering, my job NEEDED me, and I needed the money in order to drive and shit. Plus, it didn't help that my parents were getting suspicious...coming home hesitating to recall where I'd been all day, always being 'tired', etc. etc.

What I'm trying to get at, is your 16 and you have 2 years left until you are legally an adult and have the ability to move out of your parents house. The BEST option, whether or not you want to hear it, is to tough it out and stop smoking (or at least 'drastically reduce') marijuana for the 2 years you have left in that house. That way you're able to drive (which is an amazing privilege, in my opinion) and have freedom from earning your parents trust.

OR, you could keep doing what your doing, risk getting caught, and make the last 2 years at your house worse then they have to be.

Also wanted to point out that, you are able to get your license without parental consent when you're 18 years old. However, I do realize that some parents have a "you live in my house, you play by my rules" attitude, and if that was the case with you, you probably wouldn't get your dads trailblazer. Technically, when you're 18 years old you can get your license and purchase a vehicle whether or not your parents allowed it. You'd just need to money for the car.

Anyway, my opinion. Just realize that theres logical ways to get past this that can benefit you. Trying to lie and cheat your way through drug tests just seems like a lot of walking on egg shells. It'd get old and exhausting fast.
I was caught when i was just about to turn 17, lied my way out of it, and started smoking more, never got caught until i left the house. By the way waiting till your 18 probably isnt going to give you freedom. Do you think your parents would go as far as to stop paying for your college (that is if you plan on going)?
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:23 PM   #34
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You said it yourself, your brains aren't fully developed. If you had the same legal rights that adults had, then when you did something stupid & got in trouble, the excuse would be "our brains aren't fully developed!" Be glad you get off easier in the Juvy system.

Look at it from your 'rents point of view, they only want what's best for you. [Old timer mode] When I was your age, I thought my parents were only trying to make my life difficult, but now that I'm a parent, I realize they weren't. They probably remember some of the crazy s#!t they did as a teen (I sure do) & they are trying to protect you a little by setting rules. Part of growing up is learning limits, even as an adult you have them. If you don't learn how to deal with rules as a youngster, it only makes things harder for you when you are older. Also, if we know you can follow rules, then we start to trust you more & may relax some rules a little. [/Old timer mode]

My teen tried the guilt trip on me once. Because I smoke & drink, I was a hypocrite for telling him he couldn't. I told him that I have a full time job that keepa roof over his head & the bills paid. His job was to get good grades & graduate. He could either follow my rules, or get the hell out & get a job. There are lots of things adults legaly can do that kids can't (smoke cigs, drink, gamble, get married, etc.). I think I got through to his head.

I'm not trying to lecture you, I'm just trying to help you see a different point of view.
I know what your saying but like you said you did some crazy sh*t when you were a teenager and didn't always follow the rules and your still here and have a job.

w/e it doesn't matter anymore i just came home today from school. my mom must have been searching through my room and found a homemade bong made from a water bottle behind my bed( i kno, extremely stupid on my part). The doorknob was removed from my door so i can't shut it anymore. Im grounded for like 2 months, my dad is going to call all my riends parents to make sure they aren't smoking. and hes doing it cuz he said back in his day he knew if a kid ratted his friends out to his parents they would never want to hang out wit him again( even though i denied any of my friends ever smoking). I have to get "new friends"( which i won't). they think i get stoned at school and sh*t which is total b.s. because the only time i smoke is on weekends. My license and the trailblazer are gone. I can't get a job anymore( which ive been wanting to do), they have all my money. my computer is being taken away "forever". my mom was talking about sending me to drug counseling or military school but i doubt it. but basically my parents are really upset with me. said i have been disrespecting them( which i have). now i feel like everything is f*cked and like a total dick because i keep acting like i don't care that they are punishing me. idk why i keep acting like that but i cant bring myself to be apologetic or anything. im guilty of all this but at the same time i think its total bullshit that they are being this severe over smoking pot meanwhile my dad has been smoking sense high school. thank you for your advice and opinions
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:34 PM   #35
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yea so i used my friends piss, passed, and my mom claims the test is invalid because she "knows" ive been smoking. such bullshit
I guess honesty is the best policy afterall. Now you've dug yourself a deeper hole than you were in before... Now it seems like you will lose your parents' trust even more than you already had, and still won't get your licence until you're 21. Try honesty next time?

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IMO parents shouldn't be able to govern our lives. Ik our brains arent fully developed and i understand that, but thats like saying since we dont have full brains we arent fully human, and that just isnt true. We should have all the same legal rights that adults have (which we dont, look at the juvy court system).
I guess it depends on how you define "govern". I believe that most parents react the way they do in the best interest of their child.. Not to be unfair, but because they feel it is what is best for their child. I never really understood this until I grew up and moved out of my parents' house, and now I understand that everything they did was to benefit me in the longrun, and not to be jerks.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:01 AM   #36
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I was caught when i was just about to turn 17, lied my way out of it, and started smoking more, never got caught until i left the house. By the way waiting till your 18 probably isnt going to give you freedom. Do you think your parents would go as far as to stop paying for your college (that is if you plan on going)?
Everybody's parents are different. Some parents would seriously crack down after catching their kid smoking weed even once, others really wouldn't enforce anything too much unless they saw it....and everything in between.

As far as them not paying for college, its harder for them to catch you when you're out of the house and they're not around and you have your own place. My parents, personally, wouldn't stop paying for college if they found out I smoked weed and I was out of the house. They know its not their deal, and as long as I apply myself in school, they wouldn't do anything.

It'd be a different story, though, if you went to college and let marijuana get in the way of education, wasting their money.
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:29 PM   #37
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what if they hair test you or even worse anal swab!(just kidding)
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what if they hair test you or even worse anal swab!(just kidding)
i doubt parents would hair test, they are expensive and require a professional lab to get results.
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i doubt parents would hair test, they are expensive and require a professional lab to get results.
i thought there where hair tests u could buy for home use to test ur kids hair from a brush or somthing
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Try and educate them about marijuana. Don't be disrespectful and don't patronize them but research it with them and maybe they'll realize that it's not so bad.

Extremely idealistic but it's worth a shot.
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