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dedbr

You don't know anything about me son. Read the title under my name. You see what it says; Domestic War Vet. I've been at this for damn near thirty five years, and you have the nerve to cover up your bullshit story with a bunch of half truths, and then insult me when I ask for some more info? I was trying to help you understand what happened from the limited info you gave us.

I don't need to prove my credentials to you or anyone else. See the join date in my profile? March of 01. See that rep count? That's a sign of respect given to me by my fellow members. I been at this twice as long as you've been alive, and I know what I'm talking about. The respect of my fellow members says I know what I'm talking about.

Here's what I think happened. He had you pegged before he got out of the car, and you knew you had fucked up, so to be a tough guy you run your mouth at the cop and he put you in your place. That sound about right?

All these other people saying you screwed up, their all wrong too, I suppose? You better remove your head out of your ass and face facts. Your not a cop and you have no idea what the law is allowed to do or not to do. You don't really even understand what you did wrong, and won't admit it because you don't want to admit how bad you turned some simple questions and a ride to the station house into a free for all that could of put you in prison. You take prozac and use it as an excuse to cover up your stupid behavior, then come on to the boards and want our sympathy. Sorry pal, sympathy is between shit and syphallis in the dictionary, and that's about all your going to get around here.........a definition....

You resisted arrest, you disobeyed a lawful request from a police office, you attempted to harm government property and you assaulted a police officer. First offense, five years probation and a thousand dollar fine.....

Now you can cotinue to talk shit or you can come clean and admit the whole incident was instigated by you. That would be the honest thing to do....

It's a good thing I'm not a cop, or I would put some of these characters in the backseat three times before I opened the door.......

You have anything to say now, or is that pretty much the Truth about what happened......?

Never mind, it would probably be some of same horse shit we've been listening too......


Som Where In Ded Land.........

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Freedom_User

Pow wight in teh kissa!!!!

I think mainly. You matched the description of a known suicide person thingy. The cop probably thought you could possibly be that person. In his defence, before asking you who you are and what you are about. He(who underoath is to protect and serve) was doing both. Not only was he protecting you with the search, he was protecting himself. I know cops have a tough job. Day after day, people always resisting arrest, and is around MURDER all the time. With you resisting, he had EVERY right to detain you.

Think about this...

What IF the same cop, who had a warning out for a kid who is sick and unstable. Stopped and asked this kid, what he is doing without patting him down. For the moment, I could possibly see 2 things go bad with this:

1.) Without him using his training to detain this person. The person could simply take out a gun(Look at the thread called 'Freedom is for everyone') and cap the cop and simply take his life within a fraction of a second.

2.) Since a kid obviously shows signs of depression/suicidal intentions. He could possibly be sick, and take his own life. I am sure, the same cop who 'was being an asshole' would have to live with that for the rest of his life.

Passage

I've never resisted an officer physically, but I would definitely hesitate to get into his car for seemingly no reason. If the story is what actually happened then what right does the officer have to forcefully take you to the police station?

1.He searched the gabe, proceeded to find nothing. Gab verbally "resisted" to ask what is going on?

2. After finding nothing, he continues to force gabe into his squad car still not under arrest or with any explanation of what's going on.

3. He physically resists now, giving the officer reason to arrest him, but before this the officer's goal was still clear to send him into the station, but what did he want?

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FunkySkunky

You're lucky the cop didn't use his taser on your ass. I would have. Advice: Don't jump out of windows and not expect someone to think you're suicidal, especially on Prozac for depression. Secondly, don't hit a cop. Also, don't freak out in the back of a cop's car. Lastly, don't make stupid decisions and complain about the consequences to anyone on the boards. It doesn't get a warm reception, as you've seen.

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someone773

Look at this from the cops perspective. He probably recieved a call about you jumping out of a window, was given a description and told about your history and taking prozac. He then later finds you walking down the street and you fit the description. From what he knows you are potentially suicidal (having just jumped out of a window) and, if suicidal then potentially willing to harm someone else or try to run.
So his first move is to make sure you don't have any weapons/knives or anything on you. When he does try to search you you start to resist, pretty much confirming his suspicion that your this kid. Now he doesn't want you to harm him or yourself so he takes you in to get checked out. He definately should have put you handcuffs on you at this point.. I don't see why he didn't. When you get in the back of the car you start punching it...... you can easily harm yourself in there so he tries to stop you. By the sounds of it he went a bit to far there. Basically your an idiot for trying to resist, by resisting you just giving him something to charge you with if there isn't anything already.
The cop was just doing his job. He should have put you in hand cuffs and used a less force from the sounds of it but then again i'm only hearing you side of the story so I can't really say. And about the tazer part, I hate how cops would use it for intimidation but in reality, it works and it did stop you from resisting further.

 

gabriel420

The cops have/had no idea I'm on prozac, or the school. I jumped out of a 15ft window (max) and it was pretty obviously a prank, if I wanted to kill myself I'd have to be a fucking moron to try it that way.

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dedbr

Thank you for that precise an legible response to our quiries ...... Didn't answer a damn thing, but the first steps can be the best, I say.....

Advice is cheap, but I would like to give you some of the wit of the dedbr....A police officer is the only person in America that's allowed to stop you, question you, for his safety and yours handcuff you and if fucking neccesary taze you, put a cap in your ass or whatever he decides to do. Why , oh why would it ever cross your mind to decide to fuck with one of these people? If he rolls up and says get in the car; You have to get in the car. That's a lawful order.

This is the gestapo, baby. It's the blue meanies, don't you see? You have no rights when it comes to the man. The only thing you can hope for they don't try to arrest you for a 187........


Some Where In Ded Land..............

gabriel420

Advice is cheap, but I would like to give you some of the wit of the dedbr....A police officer is the only person in America that's allowed to stop you, question you, for his safety and yours handcuff you and if fucking neccesary taze you, put a cap in your ass or whatever he decides to do. Why , oh why would it ever cross your mind to decide to fuck with one of these people? If he rolls up and says get in the car; You have to get in the car. That's a lawful order.

This is the gestapo, baby. It's the blue meanies, don't you see? You have no rights when it comes to the man. The only thing you can hope for they don't try to arrest you for a 187........

So I just bend over and take it from them? Maybe that's how you do shit and play their game, but I don't.

Dark

That thought process is the problem.
. Perhaps you don't. If you continue that way it will only cause problems though. You are given many options if you just follow procedure.

Sure..if I was in your situation, would I want to get the fuck away and go about my business?
Hell yea! What the fuck, I know jumping out of a window was wrong but I didn't do nothing to warrant a visit from a cop. Why doesn't he just leave me alone?

I would have the same thoughts man. The difference is though, that even if it might be a hassle to follow his procedures at first, it will help in the longrun to listen, and I would do so. You may not think so now, but trust me, it's the right path to follow.

Now, all that frustration about this cop, all those rights you think he's breaking, remember them but keep it in. If he asks to search you, simply tell him you don't give him permission to search you. If he decides to anyways, and say he finds a quarter on you, and say it turns up in court that it was unlawful for him to search you...well then guess what? They have nothing on you..you're free to go. Who looks like the jackass in that situation eh? Good job pig

BUT...once you start physically resisting....If you forcefully stop him from searching you, you're pretty screwed. Say it's the same situation and he finds a quarter on you, AFTER you resist for about 5 minutes, push his hands away and everything. Your day comes in court, and...well you became physical. Good luck trying to get that quarter ounce thrown out now.

Now I'm not saying everytime something like this happens it would work out for the better if you follow his procedures. Hell, you could easily be charged with the same crime in both instances. I know this circumstance even doesn't relate to yours, it was only an example..
Simply, my point is that if you do not get physical, you give yourself more options. MANY more options. You get physical with a cop, no matter what the circumstance, you're almost guaranteed a trip to the station. Don't think he's just gonna get back in his car and drive off when he sees you don't want him near you .

But if you follow his procedures, and your day in court comes, and in some way it's found he violated your rights...well then how much better would it feel shoving THAT down his throat instead of getting physical and end up with problems that could have been prevented.

Keep it in mind.

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Bud&bluntman

Dude take that pig to court! he did an unlawful and unconstitutional seizure ( assuming you live in the U.S. ). He has no right to search, choke, or restrain you if you didnt do anything wrong.

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