gabriel420

So I was at school today and I decided to chillin my boy's class cause the only 6 kids there or so are straight n there was a sub (some old doofy fat guy).
So like 15 minutes into the period I got the idea of jumping out the window but everyone there was like nahh no way you can't/won't, cause it's 2nd story. So I was like fuck it... and climbed out the window and jumped. The teacher was freaking out and so was the class I jumped past. It was pretty funny thought...

So like an hour later (I wqent home and got lunch and applied for a job with my mom), came home, and I walked like 50 feet out of my yard onto the street corner and a cop stops and stops me. I didn't run cause I hadn't done anything wrong and was clean. Before I knew what was what the guy pushed me to the rtunk lid and was searching me! I was like "Hey whoa whoa what's going on?" and stepped away from him put he like pushed me back and kept searching me with me like pressed/pinned to the trunk. Whatever, i'm not gonna get physical. I let him search me but he wouldn't asnswer anything, I asked "am I under arrest?" and he told me something like "Just get in the car so we can go to tyhe station". I was like no way am I getting in that car and going to the station if I'm not under arrest or w/o being read my rights. I kept telling him that, and he started trying to push me into the open door. I wasn't going to let him push me in so I "resisted" and wouldn't get in (I didn't push him or anything, I'm not even being arrested.. wtf?). Go pinned me up against like the door/door frame and had his tazer right in my chest and said "You're going in that car either way stunned or not." no warning, no nothing. So I'm like no way still, and he fuckin puts right against my ches and looked like he was ready to use it, so I lwet him push me in the car. I was flipping out now though and started punching the sheet metal divider. the fucker tears the door open and fucking jumped on top of me. Before I could say what the fuck he had me pinned against the seat/other door and was choking me. Like straight up I couldn't breathe. I stopped fighting and held my hands back/up (well my left one, I couldnt moive my right), and tried to say I couldn't breathe. Instead it was just like gargling sorta. He says "You want to break my car? Huh? Well now you ARE under arrest"
At that point I kinda just lot it (I still couldn't breathe) and freaked out and started trying to hit him with my left hand and kneeing him between his left with my right leg. I hit his radio or something once and cut my knuckle, but caught like the joint of his chin the second time pretty nice. I only got one good kneein I'm pretty sure he'll have a couple extra somethings between his stomach and throat for the next day or 2.
After that he got off me and I chilled out (I was onluy tryingto get him off me), and he got on his radio thing. I still had my cell (he'd only taken my lighter, wallet, and pencil. I had keys and my phone) and called my house and was like "yo WTF get out here". By then there was 2 other cops (a "undercover" car n a regular) there n a ambulance showed up. Once the other cops were there my dad n mom were over there and talking to the new cops, the other guy was just standing by the car I was in (his car), and talkingto another cop.
So they let me out of the car (some other cop) and tells me I'm not under arrest/detained and I have to go to the hospital for a "psyche eval". In the ambulance though they asked me if I had a rash on my neck or if I'd been hurt. Apparently the piggy left behind some evidence. I told them what happened and made sure it was on record. I didn't see the mark till I got home... There's like a fucking 4 inch long 2 inch wide stripe down the left of my neck and blood blistered and fucked up. Asshole had leather gloves.
Anyway, apparently they thought I was trying to kill myself, and it didn't help my case that I take prozac for depression. But after two hours at the hospital getting asked questions by a nurse or something, some head shrinker-type lady, a real doctor, and a psychiatrist (scam artist).
Talk about a load of shit over a harmless prank huh?

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you should work on your decision-making.

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Dark

I say you brought it all on yourself. You have no room to complain about anything that happened to you.
In fact, you got damn lucky if your story is true. Assault a cop, try to damage his vehicle, and NOT get arrested?

Read through your whole post again and really wonder why all the things that happened came about. Every action has an opposite but equal reaction

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Buzzby

They were right. You do need a psych evaluation. You seem to be totally lacking in good sense and any impulse control.

Evidence?
Or pretty stupid. Or, apparently, pretty suicidal in the eyes of some.

What was that, if not a warning? "Get in the car or I'm going to stun you and put you in the car!" If he'd just zapped you, that would be "no warning".

Wow! Smoooooth move!

It is never a good idea to resist the directions of a law officer or to go berserk in a police car. If the arrest or detention isn't valid, it can be worked out later. That's why they invented lawyers.

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I'm sorry, but this just doesn't sound like how a real police officer would act. Unless you ran across one corrupt sonofabitch with nothing better to do that afternoon, I find it hard to believe that he would stop you, search you, pin you against his car then threaten you with a tazer with what seems to be little or no provocation on your part. Then, after putting you in the back of the car, he jumps on you, pins you down and chokes you? Because you were beating on the metal divider? And then, after you have provoked the officer and given him grounds to arrest or detain you, they send you to a hospital, give you a psychiatric evaluation, then let you walk free? I might be missing something here, but altogether it doesn't seem very plausible. (I'm hoping Phuzz or one of the other L.E.O. posters will jump in on this, I'm sure they would find more holes than I did.)

If it did go down exactly the way you said, then I'm sorry, that's a truly shitty situation. I hate to see anyone become a victim of overzealous authority. However, you have to understand that this story is pretty out there, and I'm sure I won't be the only one to have doubts about your version of it. Could you provide some more details? Maybe give us some insight as to why the officer felt it necessary to stop you in the first place and why he saw fit to use the amount of force that he did?

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he left school by jumping out a two story window... is that not enough insight as to why the officer felt it necessary to stop him in the first place? This is an (im assuming because of the high school setting) underage teenage male, who has a history of depression...

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Originally Posted by gabriel420 I got diagnosed with severe depression almost a year ago after seeing therapists n shit for a long time since i was young.

and you dont see any reason why this officer felt he should use force without the consent of an apparently suicidal teen? also, he mentions hes been taking prozac... do you know that there is a risk of suicide in teenagers who take antidepressants, all the good they mean to do just take a look at this. FDA Study Links Antidepressants, Teen Suicide
Do you not think that psychologists, school administration, and law enforcement are not aware of these things, and do not work together to try to prevent tragedy?
if this had have been a sadder case of a teen who actually was suicidal, and the officer did nothing and let the teen go, and then killed himself... im sure he searched him to see if he had any objects with which to harm himself.... not just randomly picking on some punk teenager (although OP, you probably are a punk and no offense, and i bet/hope you learned your lesson)
take a look at the fucking big picture here, cop is just doing his job, and making sure he goes home with a clean conscience and not a dead teenager that killed himself that he could have gotten help in time... i dont know if he crossed any lines legally and i dont know how biased the story that we're hearing is... but i bet the cop figured he was doing this kid a favor by giving him a few bruises in exchange for his life, if the cop thought the kid was trying to kill himself
and ill tell you, if i was a teenager in that situation, i wouldnt be able to keep a calm head and not fight back. if i knew i wasnt planning on killing myself and it was just a joke leaving school like that, id be super pissed and fight back, and i wouldnt be thinking that oh maybe theyre trying to take me to be psych evaluated cause i ditched school by jumping out a 2 story window.... i might not understand why a cop was forcing me to go somewhere without being arrested or being read my rights...
gabriel420, it was a dumb prank what you did, and maybe the officer went too far, but i do think some people need to be able to see this situation a little differently

dedbr

Uh....I don't know whether I even want to get into this one, but my first question would be, why were you resisting? What possible good could it do you not to do what the cop told you to do?

You resisted right there. Why? If you had nothing on you, what difference did it make?

Why did you keep resisting. If you knew you weren't in trouble and weren't packing, why resist so much? I'm sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me.

By refusing to comply with his 'request' you refused to obey a lawful order. The officer is not required to read you your rights if he is conducting an investigation.

Didn't he put handcuffs on you? That's standard operating procedure for any one who is considered a threat to their self or someone else. Why weren't you put in cuffs?

Gee, that explains a lot. Let me see if I got this right....You are under the age of eighteen, you are the responsibility of the school while on the school grounds, you jump out a second story window, create a panic and then it's just "pretty funny" to you.

Then when an officer attempts to check you out, probably to make sure your all right, and you start screaming about your "rights" and what are you under arrest for, and the supposedly cop who can't speak said nothing at all the whole time? He just drove up, slammed you on the car, frisked you, and tried to put you in the car, without handcuffs, and you became so combative that he had to threaten to taze you. Then, after you "decided " to get in the car, you proceded to damage government property, and in the officers attempt to stop you from said destruction of property you resisted again and ended up getting yourself hurt because you refused to do the normal thing and be a good boy?

Does that about sum it up? That after breaking about ten laws the cop still lets you go and only makes you go to see a psyche to be checked out?

I'm sorry, and no offense or anything, but I've had several contacts with law enforcement, some good and some not so good, and I've never heard of such a reaction from an officer without provocation. Maybe you could elaborate on the essentials a little bit?

Tenderlungs....

He resists the officers lawful orders, resists arrest to the point that the officer feels force is necessary to subdue him for his own safety, then he tries to damage the car after he's put in it, then he resists again, then gets one of the biggest breaks of a lifetime as far as I'm concerned and he's bitching?

Your disappointed in us because we feel there may be a little more to the story than what he's told us? Or do you think all cops should be listed as assholes and we should just accept the story without wondering why it went from a simple check to a physical confrontation just because he wanted to be an asshole to the cop?

I smell a little bit more to the story than we have heard so far. As a matter of fact, a lot more.........I'm sure Bart or Phuzz may have some more detailed questions that could help us get the story straight........

Up to now though, I smell horsepoopy. Sorry, but I have heard these stories before and there's always something we aren't being told.......

What's it going to change to tell him these things and ask a few questions? Maybe some other kid who's acting like he's a smart ass will think twice before he does something stupid like this, that's why. This sure as hell isn't the way to handle a situation like this, and I hope that "most" of "us" know that......


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Freedom_User

Well. Next time you see a cop...

...BREAK OUT!

I do it all the time. And have been arrested only one time.

Darkdrift

I got pulled over on the way home tonight (literally like 30 mins ago) for a burned out left tail light. Actually i ALSO got pulled over for the same thing 2 weeks ago, tried to fix it myself, figured out it wasn't the bulb but faulty wiring. The cop tonight was really nice, i showed him the extra taillight bulbs i had with me and told him i was trying to fix it when we found out it was the wiring. He went back to his car and ran my information and told me to sit tight. Then about 5 mins later he came back and just gave me a warning and told me i was free to go, he also said he was going to let my mirror slide (it was spiderwebbed while i was playing lacrosse, no foul, a teammate did it and apologized n shit) and the fact that i was driving an hour past my license curfew, AND the fact that i was on the phone when they started to pull me over. So moral of the story, not all cops are bad and if you just let them do their shit usually you can develop a respect between them and they don't come down hard. That guy could have had my license taken away EASILY (four laws broken all at one stop) and he just let me go...