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Old 05-13-2008, 07:01 AM   #21
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From a purely theoretically standpoint - I too, don't believe anyone should be arrested for using drugs responsibly. Dealing in amounts this large (while armed, no less), and being associated with a powerful criminal organization like the MM, however, is something else entirely. I'd say this escalates it beyond a human rights issue and into a "this is an accident waiting to happen" issue. As I said in my first post, it isn't like this group was made up of small-time pot dealers. There's a reason why they say "Marijuana transactions are done with a handshake, and cocaine transactions are done with a gun."
Listen man I'm a really nice dude so don't take any of this personally, theres just this thing in my head that says I have to say this.

If you buy weed, chances are there was a time it went through people just like this. Thats how you get your fuckin' weed in the first place ya dig'? Listen not all marijuana transactions are done with a "handshake", if the deal involves more then 1500-2000 I'm going to come strapped for my own protection, and to ensure that in the end I get either my weed or my money back. Hell I'd never come strapped for cocaine transactions, simply because "weed" heads are a lot more tempted to bluff a gat/gun then to actually use it, and a strung out geeker might at the time think that its ok to shoot this person thats offending them in the head. I'd rather try to reason with a coke head then to bluff a gun.

Bluffing a gun is not aiming it at somebody but rather letting them know you have a weapon at your disposal. In most situations people say if your prepared to pull a gun out on someone you better be ready to shoot them, sadly thats not the truth a lot of the time. I will say this though, if you do carry a weapon make sure its always loaded, its pretty scary when you have an unloaded fire arm and are put in a situation you might have to use it and somebody points a loaded gun right back at you.


Now I know someone will try to correct me on how very wrong I am, but sadly you are wrong and this is how it works a lot of the time. Remember regular civillians have to abide by "law", lots of the drug dealers or gang bangers or even "king pins" do not and have their own rules. Most of the big ones are above the "DEA" "FBI" and all of the above and it takes years and years to bust them, to even get proof their doing anything wrong for that matter. Sometimes they can't even get proof because these guys are so good at what they do (being drug lords) that they have to charge them with tax evasion or something small and petty. Some drug lords even arrange to have them selves put into prison because they have a certain price for their head.

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Old 05-13-2008, 07:28 AM   #22
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Listen man I'm a really nice dude so don't take any of this personally, theres just this thing in my head that says I have to say this.

If you buy weed, chances are there was a time it went through people just like this. Thats how you get your fuckin' weed in the first place ya dig'? Listen not all marijuana transactions are done with a "handshake", if the deal involves more then 1500-2000 I'm going to come strapped for my own protection, and to ensure that in the end I get either my weed or my money back. Hell I'd never come strapped for cocaine transactions, simply because "weed" heads are a lot more tempted to bluff a gat/gun then to actually use it, and a strung out geeker might at the time think that its ok to shoot this person thats offending them in the head. I'd rather try to reason with a coke head then to bluff a gun.

Bluffing a gun is not aiming it at somebody but rather letting them know you have a weapon at your disposal. In most situations people say if your prepared to pull a gun out on someone you better be ready to shoot them, sadly thats not the truth a lot of the time. I will say this though, if you do carry a weapon make sure its always loaded, its pretty scary when you have an unloaded fire arm and are put in a situation you might have to use it and somebody points a loaded gun right back at you.


Now I know someone will try to correct me on how very wrong I am, but sadly you are wrong and this is how it works a lot of the time. Remember regular civillians have to abide by "law", lots of the drug dealers or gang bangers or even "king pins" do not and have their own rules. Most of the big ones are above the "DEA" "FBI" and all of the above and it takes years and years to bust them, to even get proof their doing anything wrong for that matter. Sometimes they can't even get proof because these guys are so good at what they do (being drug lords) that they have to charge them with tax evasion or something small and petty. Some drug lords even arrange to have them selves put into prison because they have a certain price for their head.

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I don't even know where to start picking apart your post. Its obvious you aren't the type of person I'd ever choose to deal with. You strike me as the type of perwson who thinks they have it all figured out, yet are more clueless than most rookies to the game. As much as you think you are hardcore and know the game inside and out, your post shows how truely clueless you really are. The kind of lack of education you show is the kind of thing that gets people killed. Of course, you're going to tell me its really ME thats clueless, and that you really do have it all figured out. So be it....but I bet my lifespan exceeds five minutes, whereas if you practice what you preach, yours may not.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:14 AM   #23
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I don't even know where to start picking apart your post. Its obvious you aren't the type of person I'd ever choose to deal with. You strike me as the type of perwson who thinks they have it all figured out, yet are more clueless than most rookies to the game. As much as you think you are hardcore and know the game inside and out, your post shows how truely clueless you really are. The kind of lack of education you show is the kind of thing that gets people killed. Of course, you're going to tell me its really ME thats clueless, and that you really do have it all figured out. So be it....but I bet my lifespan exceeds five minutes, whereas if you practice what you preach, yours may not.

Go ahead and pick my post apart? I don't have it all figured out, but a majority of it. What warranted the groan? You don't seem to understand, people act irrationally when greed becomes a big factor. O yes I'm clueless and do have it all figured out, but if you front me 2 thousand dollars and I know you don't have a weapon with you, theres a chance your not going to ever see me or your money again. How ever thats not how I think but how others think, thats not cluelessness thats called truth.
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So be it....but I bet my lifespan exceeds five minutes, whereas if you practice what you preach, yours may not.
You don't seem to understand I don't practice what I preach, I used to preach to the whole fucking church, then quit and and haven't preached since. Ya dig'?
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Quite honestly....no
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Thats to bad. O well I'm sure theres probably several other people on this forum who do.
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Go ahead and pick my post apart? I don't have it all figured out, but a majority of it. What warranted the groan? You don't seem to understand, people act irrationally when greed becomes a big factor. O yes I'm clueless and do have it all figured out, but if you front me 2 thousand dollars and I know you don't have a weapon with you, theres a chance your not going to ever see me or your money again. How ever thats not how I think but how others think, thats not cluelessness thats called truth.
I've never once felt I needed to bring a weapon to a deal, no matter what size or what substance. Its called knowing who you are dealing with, and actually having some trust in people. Not once have I been robbed or shorted, for the simple reason I'd rather go without than deal with people I don't trust or know. If I'm forced to deal with shady people, I'll pass. Its called being smart. Go ahead and tell me I'm bound to get ripped off sooner or later. you'll be wrong. People in my circle would look at you like you were a fool if you showed up packing a gun for a simple exchange. If you keep your deals friendly, its simply unnecessary. If you need to carry a weapon, or even insinuate you have one or access to one, you are dealing with the wrong kinds of people. I have a small arsenal of firepower at my disposal, but I damn sure don't bring them to deals. Not only is it completely unnecessary, but it adds, I believe, a MANDATORY 7 years to any sentence you'd recieve if you got caught. I don't have 7 years to spare. Do your thing however you want to, but promoting it as the best practice to follow is moronic at best. The vast majority of people here have no business (or reason for) carrying guns while buying drugs. Giving this advice in a forum for a large part comprised of teenagers is foolish, stupid, dangerous, and manages to make both gun owners and potsmokers look like violent criminaqls. Good job... Hope your proud of yourself. You just told an untold number of people that they should pack guns if they don't want to get ripped off. Such responsible advice Any you ask why you were groaned? I think its pretty obvious why....your advice was horrible and could end up getting people hurt or killed. Yeah...I think THAT warrants a groan

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I don't have it all figured out, but a majority of it.
Truthfully, that one sentence told me all I needed to know about you.

That little saying in my last post about mj vs. coke was not meant to be taken literally, it was simply to point out the huge difference between the two - I am certainly aware that in real life it is not as cut and dried as that.

However, given your smug, 'I know it all' attitude, I don't see a discussion with you accomplishing anything worthwhile. A few more years of life experience and you'll be eating your words. In the meantime, here's another "quote" for you to ponder:

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.
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