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Trocisp

Lucky for me, or, unlucky for me, depending on how you look at it... my social skills went the way of the Dinosaur sometime when I was.... uh... well... en Utero.

 

DaDornta

I believe something shall occur the last hours of December, 2011.

I base this on the TimeWave Zero, I-Ching, Mayan calendar and other esoteric source material.

Perhaps the world will not end, but Terence McKenna (my now-deceased guide) points to an "end of time". What does this mean?

Perhaps aliens will land and life as we know it will radically shift. Perhaps time-travel will first happen with molecules in a lab somewhere and go un-noticed. Perhaps the first human-brain integration will happen, allowing humans to live entire lifetimes inside of a computer-created construct.

Time, or rather the consequences of actions taken are exponentially increasing (as well as technology).

Will we all die in 2012? Hardly...will the world look the same after? I personally doubt it. *Something* in the scientific/technological realm will render what we consider a "linear-time line" will be broken.

The effects of which may not hit the masses for several decades to come.

Speculation at the "event horizon" of infinity can never be made.




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Trocisp

You're welcome to believe whatever you want. However, I'll refer you to my signature...

"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

The I-Ching is a Chinese book that's meant to be used much like Tarrot Cards. It gives cryptic messages about vague futures - It's a bullshit, just like Tarrot Cards...

The Mayan Calender doesn't predict the "end" of anything. It's simply the end of an "era," era's in Mayan time are much like Millenia are on the Gregorian Calender. Nothing to see here... move along

TimeWave Zero is a Sophist bullshit. Anyone who believes it also needs to re-examine their Criteria for "belief." The "end point" for history is chosen before you adjust the parameters, and you search for things to justify the end date. Any date can be chosen.


It means that your now deceased guide had an erroneous belief. What's this mean?

Absolutely nothing.


Perhaps this is astronomically unlikely for reasons I've already said on this forum... if you insist, I can dive into them (again) here.

Okay... so, what, exactly do the Mayans have to do with that?

And if Molecules time traveled in a lab, trust me, I'd know about it. That is not something that would escape my radar. There are currently no scientific projects being funded or undertaken that would have that on course. I know of three "time travel" initiatives being funded at the moment, and none of them are even remotely slated to have subatomic time travel, much less molecular time travel any time in the near future...

And even those that are being funded aren't building Time Travel Machines. The two are still working on the basic mathematics and Ronald Mallett's (Space-time Twisting by Light) Ring Laser has a far, far way to go before it's ready for even subatomic attempts, much less molecular time travel.

I wouldn't rule this out - however now you're grasping at straws. Perhaps we'll find a cure for cancer in 2012 and that's what all this calender stuff is about!

Or, perhaps, like every other time someone says "end of the world," "revolutionizing experience," "new age," or any other equally amazing claim.... it's bullshit.

Technological singularity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're referring to Technological Singularity, which is still grasping at a ridiculous vague straws.
You're basing this off of a Children's game (I-Ching), a poorly understood (at least, by you) ancient Calender and... what else was it again?

Oh yeah - Sophism.

So, what you're saying is....

"Hey, here's the great thing about my absurd theory, you can say you believe it, and even if you're completely and totally wrong, which you likely are, you'll never know, because all you have to say is, 'nope - I was right, the effect just hasn't been noticed yet...'"

Not too shabby.
Oh deity/deities.

You're referring to what I posted earlier, Technological Singularity. That has nothing to do with an actual black hole with an event horizon. Nor does it have anything to do with infinity...

Jeeze louize...

DaDornta

I'd please ask that you read some source material about the I Ching.

It is *not* akin to Tarot.

The I Ching is mathematical. The 64 hexagrams are made up of 8 different tri-grams. Think of each 6-line figure as one of 64 "elements" on a periodic table...a periodic table of CHANGE. That is what the I Ching litteraly means, "book of change".

Yes, you do use divination (random chance) to construct a hexagram when you consult, but as the famous psychologist Carl Jung would say, "your subconscious is guiding your seemingly random chance--because you already inside know the answer"

If you are mathematically inclined, and want to see the actual equations and diagrams that are produced when you graph the I Ching, I suggest you put on your skeptic hat and and go here: Derivation of the Timewave from the King Wen Sequence of Hexagrams

And yes, there are University funded studies right now on how to use laser light to create a vortex to tear time/space apart. I am to busy right now to dig up the professor's name, but he has been on numerous documentaries.

The I Ching is not a "yes or no" oracle. It shows you the patterns of change around you and helps you decide for yourself the answers you seek.

The only thing worse than Tarot are runes...

DaDornta

Oh btw, I don't ever expect you to ever change your views on the I Ching...I know you are simply living your own reality/dream as am I. I cannot judge another without so judging myself. I believe what I want, and so do you. I just think it's fun once in a while to share why we think what we think, and feel how we do.

 

Trocisp

DaDornta, don't take my comments personally.

I have a tendency to post without ensuring that my post will be taken the correct way. Often, my posts come across in a manner I don't intend, however I seem to be incapable of posting in any other style.

DaDornta

Of course dude! I try not to take ANYTHING personally. It is one of the small gems of knowledge I gleamed from my vast and expansive search for enlightenment.

Don Miguel Ruiz has a book called "The Four Agreements". It uses ancient Toltec shamanism/esoteric principles to outline four guidelines.

I find gems of wisdom in all that I study and read. Right now I am about to start reading the "Tibetan Book of the Great Liberation"

Buzzby... can we start a book-club together or somthing?! I know you've probably read this book, and as I navigate through it; I may have questions for someone who has a deeper Buddhist understanding than I.

I feel that I am following my own path, taking bits and pieces of all (conspiracies included like the topic of this thread) into my ultimate opus of myself. I am creating the reality for myself I wish to perceive, just as you are. Unlike most however, I am conscious in my creator-ship.

Conspiracy theories entertain the imagination, the true key to the "next level" of human experience.

DaDornta

Just like a masochist, I enjoy having my position poked through full of holes.

A wise person takes these opportunities as potentials for further learning/expanding their view of their reality-at-large.

An enlightened person, enjoys playing both sides of the field...knowing that neither side is "right" and neither side holds "absolute truth" ...It's the innovative and creative thoughts that must be mustered that make it pleasing!

Some people call it "playing Devil's Advocate" -- but that is on a limited, conscious field. Because when one plays "devil's advocate" they already have their minds made up and are just trying to grasp a tiny bit of the masochistic pleasure of proving oneself wrong.

Transcending both sides and seeing that neither is right/wrong ... haha, it's hilarious! It's like masturbating in Nirvana!

I'm so 'cheezin

$moKeDanK

tarrot cards arrent bullshit, im good friends with a psychic and hes got some talent. no lie, hes got some real talent.

troublemaker_42

And I relied on a Oujia Board to pass my college courses

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