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SaltWrench

Ok, so the problem with this election was not that Bush won, the problem that neither of the 'major party' candidates were really worth a snuff. There's about two years difference between a Republican and a Democrat. Neither is anywhere near progressive, and for the record, I'm an Anti-Federalist (think Thomas Jefferson minus the whole slave thing). Yes as a matter of fact you can agree with a politician thats been dead for that long and not be considered an uber-conservative evangelical fool. But that's off topic, the topic here is that our country is stagnant. Stagnant mainstream ideas, stagnant politicians, and stagnant people (in the majority, not everyone), with an information infrastructure thats determined to continue this stagnation.

"So where do we fit in? we're surely not in this stagnant majority that you refer to," you ask.

To you I say, apathy is the cause of this stagnation. Are we as a generation apathetic? Yes. Do we aim to change this? Yes, but only really recently, this election seems to be a catalyst for us, and we must not let this fire die. We must capture this flame that we have now, and feed it further, more fuel to our cause.

"What is our cause though?"

Our cause is FREEDOM, the only cause that is worth dying for (outside of love, and some of us certainly can apply that to the current situation) and we must not let this cause die. Surely we all hear from our brainwashed fellows that they too are free, but are they? No, these are the very people who voted for the man that takes away our freedom in the name of "Security," and, "The Homeland" (Sounds suspiciously like, "Mother Russia," to me (Not to bash present day Russia, only a reference to the days of Stalin)).

Well, ok comrades, lets capture that same fire that Lenin put into his people during his revolution, and let's change things! Our country was founded on the principle of the people being able decide free of duress and intimidation. This election is a prime example of both of these: the Iraq war, the "homosexuals," the "pot smokers," and the "War on Terror" (interesting when you think of all the acts of, "terror," we perpetrated on the British during our own Revolution). Bush and his cohorts used fear of these things to extort the votes of honest, hardworking, moral people all over the country. This whole election was a sham, the one we should have voted for was never even on the ballot, hell (s)he never even ran, because (s)he recognized the foolishness of moving within accepted bounds of gaining power in the United States. Our people fear change, as all people do, and they only way to exact change is to stage a blitzkrieg of ideology.

So it would seem that our path is clear, we need to get out there and broadcast our message of freedom all over. Not just freedom for homosexuals; not just freedom for marijuana users, no, freedom for ALL. We need to create a movement of our own, and follow in the steps of Martin Luther King Jr., Che Guevara, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and create our own change because its obvious that our establishment isn't going to create it for us.

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RedHeads

Good luck mate - from this side of the planet it looks like the US is getting more conservative.

HappyMan

Che Guevara can rot in hell.

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SaltWrench

Redheads - Oh yes you're entirely right, the US is becoming more conservative, but we must aim to change our world, rather than just lay back and take it.

HappyMan - Don't repect Che? That's cool, but was that the only thing that you thought about my intoxicated rant? Anything else? I mean its cool if that was all that stuck out.

Puffer

Freedom is a worthy cause, and worthy causes attract followers. The biggest hurdle will be in overcoming the inertia of diffidence and apathy to effect a change of the status quo. Change won't happen all by itself. Change will happen when enough people want it badly enough to begin working in concert to achieve a common goal.

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Higher Logic

Bah, we have so many other problems to worry about in our own nation, and that's what really bothers me. Once we get our act together, then by all means go ahead and try and set an example, but don't preach to the world that this and that must be done, when we can't even fix half the problems our own country faces. Hypocrites, the world is full of 'em.

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HappyMan

But where do 'our' problems end? Is it within a city, a county, state, country, region or world? A very small problem in an 'other' city, ignored and left unattended might evolve through all 6 entities and soon become all of our problems.

Higher Logic

I can think of a couple "big" ones, like the education system for one. It should be equal for everyone, not equal for everyone with the same wallet size. There are a lot of things that should be focused on, before we start trying to Westernize another country.

HappyMan

How to do propose to make a non existant national education system equal? When education is funded and administered local communities?

MickityMike

SaltWrench:

How do you know that you're not the one who's been "brainwashed?"

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