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Old 12-21-2004, 04:23 AM   #81
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No, I said I asked the questions to a stay at home mom...But I am a stay at home dad, so I can relate.
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Old 12-21-2004, 04:42 AM   #82
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Darn skippy. I run out of bud and think to myself "Well, why don't I just go down to 7-11 and pick some up from the cashier?"

And then I remember why . . .

. . . THE MAN made it illegal!

D*mn the man!

Ah well. Guess it's time to work on the personal transporter . . . although I think plainsman just flipped genders on me. Am I trippin' or did he just say he was a stay at home mom?

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It's all good. Plains, you're a great dude and all, but I agree with HH - I coulda sworn you said the same thing.

Anyhoo, could you imagine a bag full of bud and Cheebs, HH, Plains and I all sitting around smoking and talking politics? (I'd have to invite Niteshift, too - after the smokin'-up was over, of course. )
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Old 12-21-2004, 05:07 AM   #83
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Well, I didn't say I said it well.

I guess I should have said, "what I meant to say". Or, I was channeling my feminine side.

Sorry about that.
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:45 PM   #84
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Theo Van Gogh gets killed, and all hell breaks loose for a little while in a small part of Europe. Meanwhile, some crazy ass poll comes out in the US, and all of a sudden Americans are being freely associated with the "F" word.
Aaargh, you said "small part of Europe"

Still the 12th economy globally, bigger than Russia's for that matter.

You take that back or will have to come to your little island of Ireland's coast and kick some ass

But yeah, compared to the reaction after 911 or 211 there seemed to be more anti-islamism than in the US or Spain.

Anyhoo, I just saw Van Gogh's last film "may 6th/0605 the movie" and it was a masterpiece. Much better than the pamphlet "submission". It should get a Palme d'or and an Oscar. There's a fictitious plot that the Fortuyn murder was a conspiracy between the Dutch intelligence service and the Dutch and American military industrial complex because Fortuyn opposed the Joint Fight Striker project. When the Americans are told Fortuyns successor Herben (former secretary of defense spokesman, freemason) is a big fan of the project and doesn't need a bribe they conclude "I thought we were the bad guys" - briljant.

The real strenght of the movie is the authentic footage used of Fortuyn and politicians claiming Anne Frank died for nothing, another calling Fortuyn an "inferior human" and activists throwing a pie with sh!t in his face to a comment in the newspaper editorial that appeared the day he was shot about the "horrible idea" of Fortuyn being PM at the may 4th WW2 national remebrance ceremony.

Oh, and there is nudity
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Old 12-22-2004, 03:22 AM   #85
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Aaargh, you said "small part of Europe"

Still the 12th economy globally, bigger than Russia's for that matter.

You take that back or will have to come to your little island of Ireland's coast and kick some ass
Dude, the Irish may be drunk a lot, but we're feisty - DonkeyPunch and I'll go all Erin Go Braugh on your ass!

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But yeah, compared to the reaction after 911 or 211 there seemed to be more anti-islamism than in the US or Spain.
Maybe because a larger percentage of your population are Muslim immigrants? Anyhoo, I wonder what the world reaction would be if that level of (understandable IMHO, as far as such things go anyway) anti-Muslim prejudice happened in the US?

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Old 12-22-2004, 03:32 AM   #86
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Old 12-22-2004, 08:55 AM   #87
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What scares me is that a magazine like NewsDay would PUBLISH this poll...

With all the errors, it was published and people read it and absorbed the figures and accepted this information as reality. Most folks won't hear more about this than a soundbyte and will take the statement as gospel.

People are softened up to accept the next "limitation" on rights just a little too easily.

It is just too reminiscent of the rise of Facism in eastern Europe for me to lower my personal "alert" system.

Call me paranoid...
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What scares me is that a magazine like NewsDay would PUBLISH this poll...

With all the errors, it was published and people read it and absorbed the figures and accepted this information as reality. Most folks won't hear more about this than a soundbyte and will take the statement as gospel.

People are softened up to accept the next "limitation" on rights just a little too easily.

It is just too reminiscent of the rise of Facism in eastern Europe for me to lower my personal "alert" system.

Call me paranoid...
Wouldn't this "poll" and accompanying news article serve to scare people the other way? It seems to me that this story will make people hyper sensitive to discrimination, not less so.
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