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Plainsman1963

Spongebob good. Vast generalizations concerning people bad.

I like the tele-tubbies. They aren't as wrong as Boo-bahs.

The people that protest this kind of off the wall crap aren't doing their "cause" any favors in my opinion. Extremists, no matter what brand of extremism they practice actually work against whatever cause they are going on about.

That's my two pennies.

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Higher Logic

*shrug* I'll still stick to my observations rather than numbers when it comes to this, that the majority of religious, or rather Christian groups, are right-wingers taking labels such as Neo-Cons, Republicans, or Conservatives. If a man is in office and he says he's a Christian, regardless of his actions or policies, every single person that is Christian will agree with him regardless of what he does, simply because he states he is Christian; so what these people do is simply trust that he's a Christian man and his decisions are just that.

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Yep, the only conservatives who have a place in the modern Republican Party are big-government conservatives. But as you and anybody with a decent sense of classic conservatism knows, these people are not conservatives in the true sense of the word. Real conservatives know the necessity of limited government, but every day we watch our president the "compassionate conservative" increase the scope of our already huge government, and most other republicans are following the same path. We have two extremeist parties running the country. Don't believe me? Do you think they are moderate because they are so similar? Just look at all the stupid laws they have inacted for things that common sense tells you(or at least me) shouldn't even be criminal. Few things seem more extreme to me then wanting to increase the scope of this monstrous government, or wanting to put people in cells merely for possesing a drug they grew or traded for. So if you ask me, both the democratic and republican party are extreme. Extremely stupid and extremely harmful to our country and our freedom. If it were just the "religious right" ruining our country I might still have some faith in our "democracy." Peace, HN-

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teufelfisch

My parents were both Democrats. My father was heavily involved with Focus on the Family, and went fishing with Dobson a few times. Just because one is a Democrat doesn't mean one can't be conservative, and vice-versa.

Most of these religious cats believe that homosexuality is a straight up sin, and sincerely want to protect children from it like some will protect against rapists, murderers, or *gasp* drugs.

I was raised a Methodist. The policy is "open heart, open mind", at least with modern Methodists. This doesn't mean that one should embrace another's views, only not reject them because of their views and not pre-judge them.

I'm not trying to defend his position, only trying to help yall understand it. Dobson isn't trying to destroy the left or anything, he's only trying to protect against something he sees as evil.

Now as for Spongebob, I think he was intentionally created sexually ambiguous (no ****, eh?), and this creates utter confusion and chaos among those who want him to be 100% straight. I know a lot of people who think he's gay, and a lot more who would break down in tears if they found out he is.

Niteshift

Don't you find it amazingly coincidental that the people elected to the highest leadership posts by the Republicans and the people getting the highest scores from the Christian Coalition are the same group of people?

Do you even understand how the house and senate work?


The people listed are from 7 different states. The voters in EACH STATE, on their own, elected those people. Coincidentally, those same 7 states are conservative states. If you go to more liberal states, like New York, New Jersey, Mass etc, you will find the opposite. Where is the big conspiracy and the man behind the curtain?

Then, when it comes to leadership roles, that is generally done based on seniority........which goes right back to the people in each of those states electing and re-electing the congressmen. It IS more coincidence than anything else. But you WANT it to be a conspiracy by organized religion so bad that it will look like a conspiracy no matter what.

Isn't it amazingly coincidental that for the first time in American history federal funding is going to religious (100% Christian) organizations for the support of social services?

I'll let you "prove" your theory.......cite me cases where a non-Christian organization applied for the funding and was rejected. Then we will look at why they were rejected. (To ask you to look to see if any Christian groups were also denied would be asking too much).


If a man is in office and he says he's a Christian, regardless of his actions or policies, every single person that is Christian will agree with him regardless of what he does, simply because he states he is Christian; so what these people do is simply trust that he's a Christian man and his decisions are just that.

What a load of biased bull dung!

I don't agree with everything Bush does. My father, who is slightly to the right of Jerry Falwell doesn't agree with everything Bush does. My mother, who is a member of Focus on the Family doesn't agree with everything he does. The list could go on and on.

The United Methodist Church, a rather large denomination, has opposed the war in Iraq since the beginning. So have a number of other groups.

For you to make a statement like that and stand by it requires you to ignore reality and simply rely on personal bias and anecdotes.

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jewishjake420

Spongbob is also a symbol for little girls, teenage girls, and people obsessed with Nickelodeon, not just gay guys.

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DonkeyPunch

Not if you include Senators Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle, Harkin, Leahy, Murray, Reed, Landrieu, Dodd, Collins, and Representatives Capuano, Delahunt, Pat Kennedy, Markey, Meehan, Larson, Boehlert, and many many others. I've seen them and many others get blasted by people in their own faith, some quite routinely.

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Niteshift

If a man is in office and he says he's a Christian, regardless of his actions or policies, every single person that is Christian will agree with him regardless of what he does, simply because he states he is Christian

Bill clinton said he was a Christian. He routinely attended church services. Did you see the "religious right" working to get him re-elected?

Al Gore identifies himself as a Christian. Didn't carry the Christian vote.

Kerry called himself a Catholic and referred to his own faith during the campaign. Didn't win him the election.

Jimmy Carter was widely considered a Christian......but couldn't get himself re-elected despite this alleged group think by Christians.

Higher Logic

Kerry is Catholic, not Christian. Though Catholics would like to think of themselves as a branch of Christianity, and in all purposes they are, Christians and Catholics are quite, quite different.

Of course Clinton would say he was a Christian, it's an instant vote from a LOT of people, however he never "acted" like one. And damn I can't believe Clinton got mentioned The difference between all these people though is strikingly easy when compared to Bush.

DonkeyPunch

How can you suggest that Catholics aren't Christians? I don't believe that's up for argument. Catholicism is the single largest branch of Christendom, is it not?