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Old 02-03-2005, 01:49 AM   #1
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Default State of the Union Address

Blah Blah Blah. W. is still blathering but two things I've noticed thus far...

1) I think that the act of clapping is an odd thing. Is there another creature on earth who, as a whole group slap two body parts together to make such a ruckus? I keep seeing Dick behind Bush and he's just a clapping away..then everyone is and well, its really knod of an odd phenomenon, this clapping we humans do.


2) Bush mention the biggest thorn in my side since they quit making my favorite bra at Vic's Secret. No Child Left Behind.
He said that "test scores are up..." and something to the effect of "We're working to put high school students ahead and close the gaps in the eduation of minorities."

My dear sweet lord aside from the War, actually, no...NCLB is a bigger screw up than the War. Stupid, asinine, wasteful, nonsensical and useless, that is what the NCLB is.

"NCLB declares that education should be scientific. It mentions "scientifically based research" 110 times. Yet it has zero scientific basis for what it prescribes. Nothing that it forces on the states has been tried.
It does turn our kids into lab rats." ~Educational researcher Gerald Bracey.

If you have a child in school or care how the public school system prepares the kids who will one day be in charge of this country, I suggest learning about this ridiculous mess and if nothing else, check out your local reps, find out how they feel about it and let them know what you think.

Just in case you didn't know...

The approximately $130 billion spent so far on
the war in Iraq is:
About 4 times what the federal government annually spends on K-12 programs for all 50 states.

Enough to hire 2.4 million elementary school teachers.

Enough to provide Head Start slots for an additional 18 million children.

Enough to provide full four-year college scholarships for more than 3 million students.


90% of school superintendents have said NCLB requires them to make expenditures NCLB doesn"t provide.

I recommend a standardized test to shed some light on the subject for ya.
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Old 02-03-2005, 02:20 AM   #2
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I found the moment when the mother of the fallen soldier gave the Iraqi woman her son's dog tags incredibly moving.. I am filled with so much hope for Iraq and the middle east now.

President Bush laid out the situation with Social Security, it's a problem that needs to be addressed.. and he again made it clear that we're not going to abandon the Iraqi people.

Overall a very good speech, very moving and emotional at moments, very good.. Bush's best SOTU speech thusfar.
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In America we must make doubly sure no person is held to account for a crime he or she did not commit -- so we are dramatically expanding the use of DNA evidence to prevent wrongful conviction.
Thumbs down for most of the rest, especially the parts where Bush's personal faith starts working it's way into the constitution. Our country is ass-backwards when it comes to treating homosexuals as second class citizens; they can't openly serve in the military, can't marry, can't adopt in Florida. Let's quit playing the segregation game and move into the 21st century already.

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I enjoy the winking. It never fails to bring levity to even the most serious of subjects.
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Jeff Jarvis sums up my reaction exactly:

"The shortest State of the Union post

: I like what he says about Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, and Palestine and freedom.

I do not like what he says about gay marriage, stem cells, and abortion.

I have no idea who's right about Social Security.

: Who could not be touched by the mother of a son killed fighting for freedom hugs the daughter of a man who died for freedom in Iraq."
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:10 PM   #6
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Didn't Bush tell people in 1978 that social security would be bankrupt in 10 years? (I'm sure there must be some reasonable explanation for his "miscalculation".) As a matter of fact, SS reform has been an issue raised for years. This is nothing new and its ridiculous and irresponsible for the President of the US to tell the people that the system will be bankrupt, when in fact, that is just patently false!

In 1999, SSS received:
$383 billion in checks,
$436 billion in taxes, and an additional
$49 billion in interest

The Result:
$102 billion in profit, to add to the more than $652 billion it had in surplus from previous years


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Over the past seventy-five years the American economy has been growing at about 2.8% annually. Even during the worst economic times in the U.S. - during the 1930s depression - the economy grew at 1.9%. Now these doomsayers insist that the U.S. economy will only grow at 1.4% annually over the next 75 years! So, if you predict that our economic growth will fall below even the all-time low of the 1930s depression, the Social Security System gets into financial trouble in about the year 2037. But if you take a more realistic view of the U.S. economy, even a modest 2% growth rate, the Social Security System will stay solvent, in fact reap a surplus, throughout the entire twenty-first century.

I think that most average people wouldn't know the first thing about investing their own money. Demented and sad, but true. Many people would at least in the beginning, have to use some kind of broker or advisor to put their money into some kind of account they could rely upon in their old age.
Many of these brokers and advisors are part of companies who have, of course, encouraged this reform, mostly in financial contributions as well as funding "studies" to prove what a great thing SS reform is.

George W. Bush is not a very smart man. Cunning and charismatic, but not the sharpest tool in the shed. Why anyone would listen to this man (or his "bipartisan" committee") regarding money is beyond me.

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The approximately $130 billion spent so far on
the war in Iraq is:
About 4 times what the federal government annually spends on K-12 programs for all 50 states.


The federal government is the only source of funding for the military.

IMNSHO, the federal govt. shouldn't fund education. That is a state issue. I don't think we should have a US Dept. of Ed.

SO anything the schools get form the feds is extra to me.



Our country is ass-backwards when it comes to treating homosexuals as second class citizens; they can't openly serve in the military, can't marry, can't adopt in Florida.

Like FL is the only one.


George W. Bush is not a very smart man. Cunning and charismatic, but not the sharpest tool in the shed. Why anyone would listen to this man (or his "bipartisan" committee") regarding money is beyond me.

That's pretty odd, especially since I listened to Dan Rather grudgingly admit that he listened to Bush's talk with reporters before the speech (a heads up kind of briefing) and thoght that Bush sounded very well informed on the issue. Rather found his depth of knowledge note-worthy.

Didn't Bush tell people in 1978 that social security would be bankrupt in 10 years?

I don;t know, did he? Was he even speaking on the issue back in 1978?
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Like FL is the only one.
Guess what I have right here in my pocket for ya:

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http://adoption.about.com/od/gaylesbian/a/gayadopt.htm

As with any adoption the legal side has to come into place. So far only one state, Florida, totally bans gay adoption.
BOOYAH!

Stick that in your bong and smoke it, and tell them Hiz Highness SENT YA!!!



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The approximately $130 billion spent so far on
the war in Iraq is:
About 4 times what the federal government annually spends on K-12 programs for all 50 states.


The federal government is the only source of funding for the military.

IMNSHO, the federal govt. shouldn't fund education. That is a state issue. I don't think we should have a US Dept. of Ed.

SO anything the schools get form the feds is extra to me.
Who funds the federal government to fund the military?
If the Feds are going to enact legislation costing schools billins of dollars why shouldn't they pay for the costs incurred by the laws they created?



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That's pretty odd, especially since I listened to Dan Rather grudgingly admit that he listened to Bush's talk with reporters before the speech (a heads up kind of briefing) and thoght that Bush sounded very well informed on the issue. Rather found his depth of knowledge note-worthy.
Good for Dan rather. I base my opinions not upon the opinions of others but on my own information gathering and observations.

Didn't Bush tell people in 1978 that social security would be bankrupt in 10 years?


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I don;t know, did he? Was he even speaking on the issue back in 1978?
Yes, he was according to USA Today.

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As with any adoption the legal side has to come into place. So far only one state, Florida, totally bans gay adoption

I see the key word TOTALLY, so it appears that other states ban it in general or most cases. Is that accurate?

Who funds the federal government to fund the military?

Do you honestly not know?

If the Feds are going to enact legislation costing schools billins of dollars why shouldn't they pay for the costs incurred by the laws they created?

I don't think they should enact legislation costing billions of dollar...........


Good for Dan rather. I base my opinions not upon the opinions of others but on my own information gathering and observations.

As do I. But part of forming my opinion involves looking at others opinions.........and seeing someone who despises Bush admit to Bush's apparent knowledge is pretty interesting to me.


Yes, he was according to USA Today.

Ok. So my next question is why should I make an issue over something Bush said over 20 years before becoming President and being where he was fully informed on the topic.

So he was wrong over 2 decades ago. Is it possible that his current advisors have made him better informed?
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