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Old 02-22-2005, 06:37 PM   #31
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I don't know, did they?

Would you like me to list educated, white, "not poor" convicts for you?
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:43 AM   #32
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Should felons be able to vote? Yes. So should people under the age of 18. And making voting a national holiday sounds good too. Then the kiddies would have school off and could all go vote right?
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Old 02-25-2005, 07:24 PM   #33
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So go find me the exception to the rule. Show me the guy who who did time for pot, met all the criteria and got rejected. Then you'll have.......one.
The issue we're discussing is whether all felons should have their voting rights restored automatically or not. Not whether every felon who could meet all of Florida's criteria (including the Parole Board's approval, something that may not be met just because the Parole Board says "No") get their rights restored.

The more I press you on felons rights being restored in Florida the more you have to amend and qualify your statement that Florida felons DO get their voting rights back. Some of them do, and others obviously do not. I think all should have their right to vote restored, especially since so many Americans live behind prison walls.

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The criteria includes the opinions of a Parole Board, something no individual has power over. Asking someone too meet an un-meetable criteria is a farce.

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Old 02-25-2005, 08:29 PM   #34
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Complicate it all you want...........make all the excuses and addendums you want. The bottom line comes back to the fact that you make it sound like if you get arrested for a pot felony, you will never be able to vote again and that is simply not true. It IS possible to getting your voting rights restored.

Further, this issue isn't about pot to me. Yeah, I know this is mj.com, but the issue is felons.........that means ALL felons, not just pot related felonies. If this were SOLELY about mj related felonies, I might be less adamant. But it's simply not.
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Complicate it all you want...........make all the excuses and addendums you want. The bottom line comes back to the fact that you make it sound like if you get arrested for a pot felony, you will never be able to vote again and that is simply not true. It IS possible to getting your voting rights restored.
I think it is fair to say that some marijuana felons receive their rights back, and some do not. I find this to be an unacceptable solution, and believe that all felons regardless of their crimes should have their voting rights restored. This is primarily because I do not believe that the number of truly heinous offenders in America is so great that their vote will have any sort of devastating impact on any election.

What is the danger of restoring their rights? I understand that to you it is about punishment, and not about the danger their votes might pose. However, isn't long-term incareceration and possible execution (depending on the felony) supposed to serve as the punishment for the crime? Does the loss of voting rights deter felons from comitting felonies? If not, what is the point?

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