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Murdock

Senator's Kerry and Clinton are at it again, now they're pushing a bill to restore voting rights to ex felons.. ursurping what should be a state issue not a federal one... Thankfully and Hopefully Republicans will shoot this down.. But it goes to show the depth and desperation on the left.. Pandering to the lowest common denominator.. Felons, Rapists, Murderers.. to try and restore their lost power..


In addition to creating a federal holiday for voting, the bill would:

• Require paper receipts for votes.

• Authorize $500 million to help states make the changes in voting systems and equipment.

• Allow ex-felons to vote. Currently an estimated 4.7 million Americans are barred from voting because of their criminal records.

• Require adoption of the changes in time for the 2006 election.

USA Today

 

Zilos

Awesome bill if I must say so myself!! I see nothing at all wrong with that bill, though I'm sure I will take alot of heat for saying this, but alwell.

-Peace!

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Hiz Highness

Sounds good to me!

An actual traceable record of how Americans cast their vote? What a novel idea.

Good deal.

So people who have been busted with a felony amount of weed (over 20g in FL) will be able to vote again. Good call. If republicans shoot this down it's because they don't want there to be a record of who Americans actually choose as their leaders . . . which wouldn't surprise me.

-HH

Buzzby

It's a good thing The Prez never got caught when he was snorting a certain off-topic substance. Then he wouldn't be able to vote. Would it preclude him from being President?

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Murdock

I wish it were only MJ users that this effected, if it was I'd agree with you.. but sadly, its much more severe.. Most people don't want Pedophiles, Rapist, those convicted of Larceny Murderers, Large scale drug dealers etc to decide elections.. They have proven themselves to be irresponsible citizens.. and thats the price to pay.. Of course in some states they do allow felon voting rights.. but it should remain a state issue..

 

teufelfisch

Why should we usurp these folks' rights?
I don't think Congress will be seeing any pro-rape bills anytime soon. And even if they do, everyone's voice should be heard.

Hiz Highness

I've never understood the fear people have of felons voting. It's not as if there are so many murderers in America that they might band together in a PAC and successfully legalize murder. Same with the rapists and the pedophiles. I doubt those people even make up a majority of the prison population. America is the largest prison state on earth, but not because we have more violent offenders. It's because we keep perpetuating this moronic "war on drugs".

If the options are to allow all Americans to have a voice in their government, and to keep a paper trail of how the people vote then I'm for it. The other option is to keep no record of how the law-abiding citizens are voting, and to deprive victims of the War on Drugs of influencing the government.

-HH

Stephanie S.

With a title like this, you make it pretty obvious how you feel about Dems, Murdock. Your bias is showing, pull up your britches.

Do you know every felon in prison? Do you know the details of each case? You are aware of the prison populations in this country, right? in 2001, not even half of the US Prison population was incarcerated for Violent Crimes.
19 percent were for property offenses, 20 percent were for drugs and 11 percent for "public order" violations.

Was Martha Stewart convicted of a felony? She shouldn't have the right to vote? Bad Martha, not vote for you!

I'm all about some states rights, until I recall 1964. If you understand history, you oughta know just what I'm talking about.



Here's a little primer on Civil Rights...voting is a Civil Right.
From Cornell Law School...people who know a lot more about Civil Rights than you and me combined, I reckon.

A civil right is an enforceable right or privilege, which if interfered with by another gives rise to an action for injury. Examples of civil rights are freedom of speech, press, assembly, the right to vote, freedom from involuntary servitude, and the right to equality in public places. Discrimination occurs when the civil rights of an individual are denied or interfered with because of their membership in a particular group or class. Statutes have been enacted to prevent discrimination based on a persons race, sex, religion, age, previous condition of servitude, physical limitation, national origin and in some instances sexual preference.

The states sometimes have a little difficulty doing the right thing and may need a swift kick in the ass to get moving and be fair. If everything was left up to the states, Alabama would be even more segregated than it is now and so would many other states.

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Niteshift

An actual traceable record of how Americans cast their vote? What a novel idea.

HOW they voted or IF they voted?

And didn't we already have that until the democrats tried to manipulate their loss in the 2000 Florida elections into a won?

So people who have been busted with a felony amount of weed (over 20g in FL) will be able to vote again. Good call.

Once again, you PRETEND that if you are arrested for a mj felony, you can never vote again. THAT IS NOT TRUE. Every year, in FL alone, hundreds and hundreds, even thousands, of felons have their right to vote restored by the governors office. The office of clemency does nothing but do these cases and the process is, for the most part, automatic.

So keep selling that HYPE, but the truth is, you're all wet.


I've never understood the fear people have of felons voting.

It's less about fear and more about common sense. These are people who have proven their unwillingness to follow the laws and rules of our country. They have demonstrated their lack of respect for the system and should have their say in the how the system is formed removed.

If the options are to allow all Americans to have a voice in their government, and to keep a paper trail of how the people vote then I'm for it.

That is the second time you have said "HOW" they vote. Were you not raised on the concept of a SECRET ballot?

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Niteshift

With a title like this, you make it pretty obvious how you feel about Dems, Murdock. Your bias is showing, pull up your britches.

LOL, as if nobody on the LEFT has a demonstrated bias.

not even half of the US Prison population was incarcerated for Violent Crimes.
19 percent were for property offenses, 20 percent were for drugs and 11 percent for "public order" violations.

So what? 19% are "only" thieves.............well that makes them so much more honorable.

And let's talk about those "public order" violations. Since you're Statistic Girl today, how many of those are in PRISON, meaning that they are felons, and how many of those are in JAILS, serving less than 1 year sentences for misdemeanors? Most "public order" crimes are misdemeanors, therefore not relevant to this topic.

Was Martha Stewart convicted of a felony? She shouldn't have the right to vote? Bad Martha, not vote for you!

Yes, she is a felon and no, she shouldn't vote. I don't give a crap how "nice" she is or what kind of scones she can bake. It applies to rich white defendants too.

A civil right is an enforceable right or privilege, which if interfered with by another gives rise to an action for injury. Examples of civil rights are freedom of speech, press, assembly, the right to vote, freedom from involuntary servitude, and the right to equality in public places. Discrimination occurs when the civil rights of an individual are denied or interfered with because of their membership in a particular group or class. Statutes have been enacted to prevent discrimination based on a persons race, sex, religion, age, previous condition of servitude, physical limitation, national origin and in some instances sexual preference.

Nice academic definition. But if it were all that simple, we would have almost no need for the Supreme Court, would we?

The operative part of that definition is this: "Discrimination occurs when the civil rights of an individual are denied or interfered with because of their membership in a particular group or class"

Felons aren't denied the right to vote because of their membership with any group or class. They are felons because of their OWN ACTIONS. They made CHOICES. And they made those choices BEFORE they became convicted felons.