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MickityMike · 02-28-2005, 03:06 AM

Tomorrow should be, at the very least, rather interesting:

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BEIRUT: Lebanon's Syrian-backed government banned protests planned for Monday (local time) but a main opposition figure vowed the Lebanese would take to the streets to demand who killed former prime minister Rafik al-Hariri.

Interior minister Suleiman Franjieh called on security forces in a statement on Sunday "to take all necessary steps to preserve security and order and prevent demonstrations and gatherings on Monday".

Opposition groups have called a protest at the central Martyrs Square by Hariri's grave and a one-day strike to coincide with a parliamentary debate on the killing that for many recalled Lebanon's bitter 1975-90 civil war.

Government and Syrian loyalists, meanwhile, planned to descend on central Beirut to protest against US deputy secretary of state David Satterfield's visit to Lebanon as part of growing international pressure.

Clashes between the two sides were feared.

An army statement asked the Lebanese people not to gather, particularly in the streets around parliament. Scores of security forces blocked those streets all day Sunday ahead of what is widely expected to be a fiery debate.

But opposition figure Walid Jumblatt promised there would be defiance on Monday, two weeks to the day after the killing that shocked Lebanon.

[...]

Jumblatt goes on to call Lebanon's Syrian-controlled government a "tyrannical, fascist regime."

killavanilla · 02-28-2005, 03:16 PM

Sounds like another civil war brewing over there.
Interesting how fascist regimes tend to incite this type of reaction virutally every where and every time.
The rebels are right. Syria, Iran and Lebanon all need serious political reform, along with North Korea and most of Africa.
When will people realize that dictatorships, or rule without influence of the citizenship, cannot sustain itself?
Very interesting.......

S2 · 02-28-2005, 06:10 PM

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Sounds like another civil war brewing over there.

Maybe not...

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Monday, February 28, 2005 1:19 p.m. ET

By Nadim Ladki

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon's Syrian-backed government collapsed Monday, piling more pressure on Damascus, already under fire from the United States and Israel.

Prime Minister Omar Karami, under opposition fire since the Feb. 14 assassination of his predecessor Rafik al-Hariri, told parliament his government was resigning to ensure that it "does not become an obstacle to the good of the country."

The news delighted thousands of flag-waving demonstrators who had defied an official ban to protest at Syrian domination of Lebanon. Banks, schools and businesses had closed after an opposition call for an anti-Syrian general strike.

Druze opposition leader Walid Jumblatt said the "people have won" and called for calm. "Today we are at a new turning point in the history of the country," he said.

A Syrian official source, who asked not to be named, said only: "This is an internal affair. Lebanon has the constitutional channels that govern these issues."

Syria plays a dominant role in Lebanon and maintains 14,000 troops there. Pressure has been growing within Lebanon and from abroad for a complete military withdrawal.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said he thought Washington might eventually resort to military action against his country.

"Washington has imposed sanctions on us and isolated us in the past, but each time the circle hasn't closed around us," Assad told Italy's Repubblica newspaper.

"If, however, you ask me if I'm expecting an armed attack, well I've seen it coming since the end of the war in Iraq."

Asked if an attack was imminent, Assad said: "I don't think so, for now it's just skirmishing. True, the White House language, if looked at in detail, leads one to expect a campaign similar to the one that led up to attack on Iraq."

A Lebanese opposition parliamentarian called for popular protests to continue in Lebanon until Syria quits the country.

"The battle is long, and this is the first step, this is the battle for freedom, sovereignty and independence," Ghattas Khouri told protesters after news of Karami's resignation.

Copyright © 2005 Reuters Limited.

I dont think the Lebanese opposition party and rank and file are emboldened by what has happened in Iraq though.

killavanilla · 02-28-2005, 07:06 PM

Awesome.
And freedom spreads.....
Maybe.

MickityMike · 02-28-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by S2

I dont think the Lebanese opposition party and rank and file are emboldened by what has happened in Iraq though.

Me neither.

MickityMike · 02-28-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by killavanilla

Awesome.
And freedom spreads.....
Maybe.

That's quite a big maybe, my friend. Democracy, as many have pointed out, isn't so much a single event as it's a process. Afghanistan, Palestine, Iraq, (Egypt?) and now hopefully Lebanon are certainly taking the first steps in that direction, but whether or not it's something that has a chance of enduring remains to be seen. But I wouldn't bet against them.

Either way, I really get the feeling that we're going to be witnessing a cascade of amazing events in the coming months. Should definitely make for an interesting Spring, that's for damned sure.

MickityMike · 02-28-2005, 10:59 PM

Lebanon in Pictures, courtesy of the Beeb:

http://www.marijuana.com/420/attachm...tid=3150&stc=1

http://www.marijuana.com/420/attachm...tid=3151&stc=1

http://www.marijuana.com/420/attachm...tid=3152&stc=1

HappyMan · 03-01-2005, 05:01 AM

The Snow ball may be rolling or at least somekind of ball

S2 · 03-01-2005, 10:53 AM

Id love to be a mouse in the corner in Syria as they are discussing the wisdom of assasinating Hariri

free elections in afghanistan, irag, egypt, lebanon,ukraine,...who's next? And who is the stupid lying dolt that started this snowball rolling??? Why the hell didnt he attack N. Korea or Iran first?

Somewhere among these threads it was asserted that you could not force democracy on a population with guns....the population had to do it themselves when they were "ready". what such assertions miss is that democracy was not foisted on a people with guns, the impediments to it were removed by force. And its possible that other oppressed peoples are encouraged if not emboldened to have the same when they see the coalition's commitment to supporting the process without backing down.

***rick*** · 07-23-2006, 04:27 AM

Ha! I'm guess all this didnt work out so well for the lebonese?

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killavanilla Jr. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 244 Grams: 1,211.30 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Sounds like another civil war brewing over there. Interesting how fascist regimes tend to incite this type of reaction virutally every where and every time. The rebels are right. Syria, Iran and Lebanon all need serious political reform, along with North Korea and most of Africa. When will people realize that dictatorships, or rule without influence of the citizenship, cannot sustain itself? Very interesting.......

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killavanilla Jr. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 244 Grams: 1,211.30 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Awesome. And freedom spreads..... Maybe.

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S2 Just another bonehead Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,096 Grams: 220.05 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 11 Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Id love to be a mouse in the corner in Syria as they are discussing the wisdom of assasinating Hariri free elections in afghanistan, irag, egypt, lebanon,ukraine,...who's next? And who is the stupid lying dolt that started this snowball rolling??? Why the hell didnt he attack N. Korea or Iran first? Somewhere among these threads it was asserted that you could not force democracy on a population with guns....the population had to do it themselves when they were "ready". what such assertions miss is that democracy was not foisted on a people with guns, the impediments to it were removed by force. And its possible that other oppressed peoples are encouraged if not emboldened to have the same when they see the coalition's commitment to supporting the process without backing down.

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