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Old 09-21-2001, 07:58 PM   #1
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Overall, pretty good, but one line of his (an applause line, unfortunately) really, really pissed me off:

"...either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

What an incredibly stupid, ignorant, arrogant thing to say. Neutrality is a very important policy of several countries. I'm still trying to figure out how to interpret that line so it leaves space for traditionally neutral countries (ie, Switzerland). I guess the Swiss government supports terrorists because they haven't offered the US support? As I said: stupid, ignorant, arrogant *sighs*

The rest of the speech was quite good, except he overdid the religious 'message'.
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Old 09-21-2001, 09:33 PM   #2
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"...either you are with us, or you are with the Terrorists."

The capital T is important. It changes the meaning when you make it personal.

A "terrorist of ideology" is now an oxymoron.

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Old 09-22-2001, 02:19 PM   #3
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Anybody see the looks on HR Clinton's face? I was never a Clinton fan and I don't suppose I will ever be after watching her.

To me, she looked disinterested/disgusted during the whole deal. I'm not trying to bash her, just wondered if anybody else caught that.
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Old 09-22-2001, 07:45 PM   #4
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The half-azzed clapping and disinterested look on the face of the junior senator from NY is the subject of a thread on one of the forums I administer. A LOT of people saw it (God bless the camera man for holding on her that long).

One theory is that she just saw her hopes of moving back into the White House in 3 1/2 more years go poof.

After everyone seeing her reaction though, I think the only White House in her future has a white picket fence around it and the closest she'll get to the one on Pennsylvania Ave. is to look through the iron fince with the other tourists.

As one of them put it:

Blue silk tie $68.50

American Flag Pin $7.50


Seeing Hillary Clinton realize her chances of becoming president had crumbled lower than the Trade Centers...

PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-22-2001, 07:51 PM   #5
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The half-azzed clapping and disinterested look on the face of the junior senator from NY is the subject of a thread on one of the forums I administer.
I guess HRC just isn't the same caliber of American and patriot that you are niteshift.

PS: aren't moderators suppost to be fairly neutral by definition? I think I detect a conflict of interest here.

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Old 09-22-2001, 07:59 PM   #6
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Moderators don't have to neutral. We do have to discern if our moderating duties are affected by our personal opinions of other members and the current thread/post that they are moderating.

If you are talking about me and what happened in an earlier post, please take your question to either another moderator, administrator or start a different thread about it.


I guess HRC just isn't the same caliber of American and patriot that you are niteshift.

I cannot wait to hear a reply to that one.

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Old 09-22-2001, 08:18 PM   #7
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"I guess HRC just isn't the same caliber of American and patriot that you are niteshift."

Of course, the fact that I didn't comment on her patriotism or Americanism seems irrelevant to you harrad, but since you bring it up..........

Finally, something we agree 100% on. She wouldn't be on her best day........and not just compared to me either. And I'm so very, very glad that I'm not like her.

I've heard the comments of people who observed and opined the same things and those people voted for Gore. Others, who voted for Clinton (Bill type) saw it.........and the Conservatives all saw it.

Be sarcastic if you want, the world saw it and most noticed it.

"PS: aren't moderators suppost to be fairly neutral by definition? I think I detect a conflict of interest here."

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I appreciate the comments, but I don't want this discussed on this thread.

(some of niteshifts comment edited).

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Harrad... I asked you via PM and I asked you via an earlier post. If you have problems with the way we moderate, take it somewhere else like the feedback forum or a different moderator/admin.


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let him post what he thinks
if you dont, you are not better than state prohibiting drugs
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Thanks MM!

I saw the speech too but I dont think I could put my feelings in to words. Instead, here is a link to The Nation, An American publication in existence since 1865, thats 136 years folks!

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The Nation will not be the organ of any party, sect, or body. It will, on the contrary, make an earnest effort to bring to the discussion of political and social questions a really critical spirit, and to wage war upon the vices of violence, exaggeration, and misrepresentation by which so much of the political writing of the day is marred.
-- from The Nation's founding prospectus, 1865
http://www.Thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i...ichols20011021
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