AlphaWolf

Alright... Now its time to put the thinking caps on, and solve the root problem of this war on terrorism.. and thats the conflict in Israel..

What should be done? How should it be done? And how do you go about doing it, while keeping diplomacy in the world?

Honestly, I can see no real solution to the problem in my meager mind.. Perhaps someone else out there can.... And perhaps through enlightened discourse we can figure something out...

The only thing I can figure at this point is giving the green light to Israel to take out the PLO.. They could do it rather easily, and with world support considering that Arafat is deeply involved with Hizbullah and Hamas... Although, that would completely destroy any arab support that we maintain in the region, we would continue to have world support..

Alright Everyone, whats your solution??

Niteshift

Israel is a major issue with many of the terrorist factions, but even eliminating that issue would not bring peace to the Middle East.

There is still plenty of fighting between Muslims. Sunnis have been fighting Shiites for centuries. Look at how long the war between Iran and Iraq went. That war had nothing to do with the US and both countries have attacked, either directly or indirectly Israel and support continuing terrorism against it.

Other countries in the region war as well.

The whole unrest in the region is based on religion. The hatred of Israel is based on religion. The hatred between Moslems is based on religion. The only solution, in my view, is through religion and I don't see that happening.

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poonafish

We must consider the problem:

If we attack islamic nations, their warriors become martyrs, and holy war is declared. If we imprison them, they become heroes.

The best solution I've come across so far is to round up all the muslim warmongers, and give them sex change operations and send them back home. We'll see who's laughing then, when they have no more powerful war-loving men. Imagine Osama with a vagina and boobies. There's a great image.

I have no solution for the Israel-Palestine problem, except that they should just share the d@mn city and build another temple. *poof* problem solved. If both sides weren't so ignorant and arrogant, there wouldn't even be a crisis.

As for me, I'm going to sit back, smoke a bowl and hope the Taliban doesn't get offended that the US bombed some residential areas in their cities and decide to bring the fighting back to North America.

Mamabudz

Please define exactly in what way are both sides "ignorant and arrogant"?

Sharing Jerusalem, that is an excellent idea. That is why Jerusalem has been a divided city since '48. There is a "jewish Quarter" a "Christian Quarter" and an "Arab or Islamic Quarter"

As to building another temple, are you referring to rebuilding the first Temple of Jerusalem built by King Solomon to house the Holy Ark, the second Temple built by Herod where Jesus was to have cleared of the money changers or the Temple Mount built by the followers of Islam in 500 AD where Mohamed leapt to Heaven?

Unfortunately Niteshift hit the nail on the head. The root problem of this war on terrorism is not the conflict with the existance of the state of Israel ( a Jewish State) amongst the states of Syria, Jordan, Kuwait, Suadi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afgahanistan, Egypt, Libya and the other Islamic States of the region. That is a problem that has existed since biblical times over 4000 years in the past, the times of the first patriarch anad matriarch of the three largest religions of the world: Abraham and Sarah and the story of Hagar and Ishmael which were brought forward to become the basis of Islam.

Niteshift

"Unfortunately Niteshift hit the nail on the head."

Just checking.........is it that the answer is unfortunate or that I'm the one who answered it?

The Stoned Philosopher

The solution is simple: try to reach a comprimise between the palestinians and the israelis over the land in israel. After that is done and properly reinforced, there shouldnt be much of a terrorist problem in the israel area even though it wont be put out entirely,but it will help. Another big thing is for the US to end its influence in the area and stop treating the middle east as a "sea of oil" and actually treat them like other nations and people.
Yes they has been skimishes between the two caphlates in islam but before forgien enfluence and the discovery of oil in the middle east things where pretty much peaceful than they are now.
Yes one of the roots of terrorism is religion,but another root is the disire for autonomy and the resentment of forgien rule which can be seen in many civilizations in the world,most notably OURS. (i bet the british called samuel adams and other extreme patriot colonists terrorists)

The Stoned Philosopher

Mamabudz

Simple compromise? Which compromise hasn't been tried? Properly "reinforce" it? In what manner. And even then you admit "it wont be put out entirely,but it will help" .

You are interpreting the area as a Westerner. This is not an area of European Western thought and your ideas don't apply. Also there are more than simply two schools of Islam and to describe their ideological attacks as mere skirmishes for the past 1500 years (prior to the discovery of petroleum) is to demote these people and their nations to that minamalistic very "disney-ized" view that Westerners view them as and which you claim to be above.

Please learn your history of the area, the spice trade, the opium trade, the Crusades. The area formerly known as the Fertile Crescent has never been a "peaceful area"

The root of terrorism is hopelessness

Oh and Samuel Adams is a brewery. John Adams however was a colonialist. Non violent protests such as the Boston Tea party were the order of the day until the British arrived to enforce the taxation powers of the current ruler of the Colonies.

Again, Please Learn History...If not foreign history...at least AMERICAN HISTORY!!!

The Stoned Philosopher

Oh well. I should know better lol, thank you for enlightening me about that (iam not very keen on islamic civilization but i do know somethings).Iam not prefect you know and iam well aware that one of the roots of terrorism is hopelessness. And yes a Samuel Adams existed (he was one of the people who help formed the Sons of Liberty), he was pretty much a patriotic extremeist (even though he didnt kill anyone he was pretty extreme). Iam pretty keen on american history but iam somewhat foggy on middle eastren (just know the general overlay of it). But i do know that the best to do things is to keep it simple.

The Stoned Philosopher

Niteshift

Hmmmmm, take people that believe in the total genocide of a race, that believe that dying in service to their god is the highest honor and teach them compromise? That shouldn't take more than 2-3 days, right?

You're talking about a fight that goes back thousands of years. And you're talking about countires where many of the citizens know nothing but religion. They don't read, watch TV or surf the internet. They know only what their people have done for thousands of years. "Teaching" them compromise sounds noble, but it is almost impossible. They can't even agree on what their common religion says and they kill each other over it, but they all agree that they want to push Israel into the sea.

I just don't see "teaching" them compromise as a viable solution.

The Stoned Philosopher

well something has to be done, got any suggestions? BTW,not all muslims are like that from what i know about islam, jihad is suppost to be a defense and you arent suppost to kill innocents.
Oh well,thats religion for ya. It will be a fine day when the world is purged of organized religion.

The Stoned Philosopher