Buggie Owens

The new anti-terrorism legislation will be signed into law tomorrow. Attorney General Ashcroft commented:

[that] he will direct investigators to pursue aggressively terrorists on the Internet.

"New authority in the legislation permits the use of devices that capture senders and receivers addresses associated with communications on the Internet," he said. "

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/25/inv...eut/index.html


While I fervently hope that Ashcroft, a conservative through and through, will not apply these techniques to ferret out we anti-marijuana prohibitionists, nothing would shock me.

I don't want to spread paranoia irresponsibly but I'd be careful of how you use the internet. Big Brother is watching us.

My self-induced paranoia (I haven't smoked for several days) is not helped by the fact that I can't access www.norml.org. I am 99% sure that this inability to open the NORML webpage is for mundane reasons but with Ashcroft's legislation in place as well the recent decision (Wednesday)allowing DEA limited access to the seized medical files in SoCal, we have to be vigil

"If you gaze for long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you." Nietzsche

this just in...
here's a little more from Ashcroft today:

Echoing a threat then-Attorney General Robert Kennedy made four decades ago to pursue mobsters for spitting on the sidewalk, Ashcroft said: "Let the terrorists among us be warned."

"If you overstay your visas even by one day, we will arrest you; if you violate a local law, we will hope that you will, and work to make sure that you are put in jail and be kept in custody as long as possible," he said in a speech to the nation's mayors.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...195409_000.htm

CocoaDrinker

time to move to amsterdam anyone?

PsYcHoLoGiCaL

You think norml is mad? you should see how security site are reacting to this... It could shut down alot of damn nice sites that have tons of educational vaule...

psychological

HappyMan

Well, the legal system still stands as a rational counter to compuslive and recationary laws.

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Buggie Owens

I see the NORML site is accessible again so in my best Emily Latella voice: "Oh..never mind".

I had posted information (concerning the Project Censored website detailing suppressed research on MJ and the Army Psyops that worked for CNN) in the CNN discussion group War on Drugs that got deleted.

I'm sure that must have been coincidental since it is obvious I am a raving lunatic, right?

Viva the first amendment!

SilentPete

One way you might want to keep big brother is get a secure email server, like hushmail (www.hushmail.com) from what I understand a message sent between two people using that service is next to impossible for a third party to view.

And buggie you’re not the only one scared. Seeing all these people voluntarily giving away their freedoms for the sake of "national security" is making me sick to my stomach. A woman wrote in to my local paper saying and I quote "Given our new way of living after the tragedy on 9-11 I think now would be a great time for us to outlaw trick or treating. It is an archaic practice and I don't think it is safe for our children anymore." Sometimes I wonder if it worth fighting to preserve liberty with all these idiots so ready to throw it away. It makes me sick just thinking about it. In Germany the people traded their freedoms for bread. In America we are trading our freedom for a false sense of security. I just pray we don't have the same outcome...

HappyMan

Other than watching CNN more often, my life has not change, at all, since 9-1. The terrorist have yet to show that they have the resources to directly threaten the American public in and sustained way. All the talk about life changing and terroist lurking every is not only poor risk analysis but also ignorant.
As for trick or treating. I can not see why that would be dangerous. It's hard to believe that the current terrorist would use their limited resources and man power to target children. They would like us to believe that they are uncarring men, but only the most evil person would attack children directly. I think that even the most devoted, American hating Islamic zelot would think twice about killing kids. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I still do have a good deal of faith in humanity.




Persoanly I believe there is a ZERO chance of me dieing in a terrorist attack. Also aside from that Fertilizer scare we had this week, most people I know and work with only express the slightess concern for personal safetly. It seems that the media has missjudged the level of fear in the general population. Understandable considering that the media is a taget in this war, but harmfull because the average person is no more at risk of dieing violently now, than they were before the attacks on the 9-11. We see all the stupid people writing in to the newspaper expressing their irational fear. People avioding malls because of a implausable chain letter, over reactions do to a improperly reported theft of fertilizer and a general missunderstanding anthrax.

I have already written a couple of letters urging the major media sources to tone down their coverage of anthrax. I think it might be nessercary to point out that most Americans are not affriad and have continued without changing any significant aspects of their lives.

Buggie Owens

SP..thanks for the website

HM:

The media is certainly over hyping the anthrax situation. For those potentially in the 'line of fire', guarded caution is completely understandable For myself I am not worried. Nevertheless, I do realize that America's war on terrorism has a home front and am grateful for the efforts of those who protect and serve America.

Here's a thought:
Although the anthrax attack is a major news story, I wonder if the large corporations are asking to bury the latest big news stories on cannabis (FBI numbers, SoCal medical marijuana files, Britain's change in policy, hemp-based products ban, hempmobile...). The-over exposure of anthrax offers the perfect media cover.

Also notice the media critique of the medical/civil response to an unexpected situation. The drug interdiction tactics of America's drug policy has proven a failure yet the architects and acolytes of this failed doctrine as represented by (some) LEOs, private prison organzations, and the like-minded corporations are not held under much public scrutiny.

That's my rant for now

HappyMan

American Media never covers British Politics, let alone a minor issues suchs as marijuana, let alone during a war. CNN did run a spot about it on Headline news two days ago, and an Article did apear in the Boston Globe.

The Stoned Philosopher

About the anthrax scare, if they really wanted to kill of a bunch of people, they would of done it already:
http://www.guerrillanews.com/newswire/184.html
The article is about how vunerable we are to a biological attack.
Most likely the current anthrax scare is just what it is, a scare.

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