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It's finally been said. What else can I say...not much I suppose.

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Niteshift

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Niteshift

Bull****. Prove it. Where is your proof that terrorists are selling marijuana as a fund-raising activity inside US borders? Where is your proof that the marijuana I buy from my local dealer, originated from a terrorist grow-op? I call bull****.

Even though Killer was being sarcastic, your response is off base.

Look at what he actually said: "The terrorists are selling drugs (cocaine, heroin, and MARIJUANA) to fund their plans for destruction."

Then look at your response.........Why did you make those changes?

Selling pot "inside US borders". Who gives a crap if they are selling it inside the US or in Belgium? Money raised is money raised. The concern is about them raising money, not WHERE they raise money.

Proof that your pot came from a terrorist source? Again, he didn't anything about YOUR pot or even in the US for that matter. Those narrow conditions were strictly your own invention.

There is ample proof that a number of terrorist organizations, from al Qaeda/Taliban to FARC terrorists in Colombia, use money made from illicit drug sales to finance their operations at least in part.

Now you can try to deflect that by placing narrow, artificial qualifiers on it, like you did, but that doesn't change the truth that terrorists do use drug sales to finance their activities.



Regarding the topic............I think the author is being a little paranoid, however, the topic does have merit and I have my own concerns.

My biggest concern isn't about the current president, but future ones. I am comofortable in feeling that I have nothing to worry about from Bush, but what if, god forbid, Hillary wins in 2008? Or Biden? Or Kerry? I can see them using the same implied powers to push their domestic agendas, such as gun control.

Cassius

They weren't CHANGES. He said "Now this may be hard for those that use marijuana for medicinal reasons but if you are using marijuana YOU could very well be supporting a terror cell inside this country."

Now how could *I* be supporting a terror cell, unless these alleged drug sales took place inside US borders?

This isn't about whether terrorists sell drugs for money or not. This is about whether using marijuana IN THE UNITED STATES supports terrorism. I give a crap about whether it was in the US or Belgium, because if it's in Belgium but not in the US, then if *I* am using marijuana *I* most certainly am not supporting a terror cell inside this country.



Did you even read all of his post?

Can you explain to me how a terrorist selling weed in Belgium means that the weed we buy, the vast majority of which is grown in the US, Canada, or Mexico, goes to support terrorism?

Because that was his allegation (sarcastic or not), that the weed I buy could be or is supporting terrorism. It most certainly matters whether terrorists are selling it inside US borders or not, because I buy it inside US borders, the dealer I buy from buys it inside US borders, and chances are pretty damn good that no matter how far you go up the chain, it all occurs in US borders (or North American borders at a minimum).

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Cassius

Oh, yes, hmm, let me extend your argument a little farther Niteshift.

We all know that terrorists buy and sell weapons.

Therefore, when you go to Don's Guns and buy a pistol, you are supporting terrorism. Wow, I bet you didn't know that, did you? How many guns do you own again?

After all, what difference does it make if the terrorists buy and sell weapons in the US or in Belgium? The concern is about them raising money, not where they raise money.

 

ChronicSmoke7

someone's getting cranky, take a break from the comp for a few days and enjoy the christmas spirit.

Opium is the number one source of drug money for al queda in afganhistan, which will be manufactured into heroin and sold to the junkies worldwide, definately in teh states, many farmers have switched since the destruction of their country. marijuana not so much.

killer12382

One of the few things the Taliban did in Afganistan was outlaw opium production and they did a fairly good job of it. When the US took over the country and gave it back to the warlords, opium production went back up to pre-Taliban levels.
Cocaine seems to be the drug of choice for militant groups in South and Central America. Now militant groups does not always equal terrorist groups. Not all terrorist attacks are considered wrong.....wouldn't the Boston Tea Party be considered a "terrorist" attack by the British?

Buzzby

They're also growing poppies.


The Boston Tea Party was carried out by colonists dressed as Indians, not by the British. AFAIK, they made no attempt to kill anyone. It was an economic protest, not a terrorist attack.

You are correct, though. One man's "terrorist" is another man's "freedom fighter". It largely depends on where you're standing. To my mind, a "freedom fighter" discredits his cause when he attacks non-military or non-economic targets.

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Cassius

Yes, I get cranky when I see people on marijuana.com defending someone who said the exact same thing as television ads by the ONDCP (even if they said it sarcastically -- NS was not defending it sarcastically).

I'm still waiting for an explanation for how buying weed in the United States supports terrorism when the majority of weed sold in the United States is grown in North America.

Perhaps all the covert pot farmers around the country, are, in fact, members of Al-qaeda?

PotShot

And we must remember that if the illegal drug trade was indeed such a boon to the "terrorists," well then legalization would be the best thing to combat it.

Keeping the drug trade in the black market is certainly a support for criminal organizations all over the world. Legalization would do much to help us "win the war on terror."

But our corrupt government does not really seem to focused on making things better, just making more money.

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