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Bongwater19

i hope the war on terrorism goes better than the war on drugs or we are so gone.

i'm not well educated on the war on terrorism or methods of getting stuff done in that field, but it seems to be difficult to prevent terrorism. You can't really prevent war if another country wants to fight it. we have been waged war against, we wage no war ourselves. we are fighting an idea with men and missiles, and ideas die hard.

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whitewidow420

The War on Drugs is a farce. Something to keep lining the pockets of the government while continuing to tear apart families. There isn't a substantial amount of drugs removed from the streets to constitute spending trillions of tax payers dollars.

The fact is, people always have and always will seek an altered state of mind. Be it drugs or otherwise. Keeping anything illegal will only cause a predominate black market for it which in turn only creates more crime. This has been proven over and over again, apparently we did not learn with alcohol prohibition. Any type of prohibition will only cause more damage than good.

Some people would argue that if all drugs were legal there would be this mass rush of people lining up to get high but this is simply not true. Anyone who wants drugs can get them now. I certainly wouldn't rush out and do >snip< or any other drug of the like simply because it was legal. We cannot even keep drugs out of our prison systems. Actually, by locking up drug offenders we are inevidably introducing them to other drug dealers.

If all drugs were legal they would have to be monitored by the government just like alcohol is. The person selling the product would have to be licensed and the person purchasing the product would have to be of age. This would make for a much safer environment for the seller and the purchaser (I hate calling them drug dealers, they are simply providing a service just like bartenders). The amount of OD's per year would be drastically reduced if the user knew each time how much of the drug he/she was doing. >snip<

Our foreign policies are much to blame for the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. We sell weapons to Isreal, they get first pick from weapons we do not even offer other countries to purchase, then in turn Isreal bombs Palestinians. The Palestinians see 'Made in the USA' and it tends to tick them off a bit, with good reason. We are supplying them with weapons that are not 'up to par' with the weapons we provide Israel. Granted, this isn't the only issue the US needs to re-examine, but it would certainly help.

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mylobean

I think that if the US government is as half hearted and misguided in the war on terrorism as they have been in the WOD, we'll suffer just as badly in the former as the latter.

And I also think that the US government will be just as half hearted and misguided in it's latest offensive. The root causes of terrorism need to be addressed, and those issues are going to very difficult ones for the US government and the US people to deal with. It's going to be hard to admit that maybe we haven't been playing the role we should have in the world. It will be hard to admit that extremists have legitimate grievances with the policies and practices of the United States. And probably, since the issues are going to be hard to deal with, they'll be swept under the rug with the help of the other branch of the government, the media.

The Stoned Philosopher

The current methods being deployed to fight the war on terrorism are completely counter productive. The only thing we are doing over there is rallying support for the taliban and terrorist groups.
Heres a interesting article from the la times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...0501mood.story
The only way we will ever prevent terrorism and to overall improve our relations with other countries is change our current forgien policies in the middle east and other areas around the world.
And, if we continue our current methods we will lose the war on terrorism like we have "lost" the war on drugs.

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schwadood

The thing that always got me was the fact that it is a war on a verb. How can you successfully get rid the idea that anyone would want to commit a certain act at any given time? It can't be done.

Whitewidow made a good point about the war on drugs, because its applicable there too,its natural to want to alter your conciousness every now and then. Whether it is just to relax or for spiritual purposes (both relieve stress). If drugs (read: anything that people take now to catch a buzz) did not exist, just were not here, people would be >snip< . Give us the healthiest choice.

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whitewidow420

There are people now who >snip< The more they do it the more likely they are to either figure out it's stupid or live with the consequences of their actions. I use the term 'live' loosely considering that could mean they spend the rest of their lives as a vegetable. There will always be stupid people. The laws we have now conform to the lowest common denominator in society. People find it hard to believe there are productive >snip< Heck, we give nicotine addicts a place to use their drug during work hours. Therefore, those who are stupid enough to stay addicted to their drug of choice reflect negatively on the rest of us.

Hitting myself in the head with a hammer is legal, but do I do it? No. I can snort Drano too, but do I do it? No. See where I'm going with this? There will always going to be someone who thinks these are good ideas.

I believe it should be an individuals choice as to what they inflict upon themselves be it drug, religion, or hammer/drano.

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The Stoned Philosopher

Oh yeah,dire news ahead. If the our current war on afganistan goes along at its current rate then almost all the civilians in afganistan will die of starvation, thats about 7 million people.
If that happens then the war on terrorism will be lost because guess who will they blame? The US because they arent really helping UN people who are trying to get food in by dropping cluster bombs and bombs that are near nuclear in their overall destructive power. The bombing in afganistan has to stop or the war on terrorism will be lost. (i have other reasons why, try reading up on sun tzu's "the art of war" and see which side at their current rate will be the victor)
Then again, dubya and his pals act alot like mao zedong,and this little war seems to be another "great leap foward"

X BLUE X HAZE X

You know what would suck, if they had an army draft. I don't want to go to war, I would prolly get killed withing the first couple days!

Buggie Owens

watch out...it may be only a matter of time before J. Edgar Ashcroft claims specifically that we potsters are funding the terrorists. He made the claim for drugs overall but I am dreading when he might single us all out

whitewidow420

Potsmokers have already been targeted by Ashcroft, or Asscrack as he is known here in Atlanta.

He personally sent his little cronies to California to raid the facilities where doctors were given states rights to grow medicinal marijuana. He is targeting sick people.

He is whining and griping about how the DEA agents are being taken off of the drug war, or some of them are, in order to fight our War on Terrorism.

If he had his way, we would all be put to death.